[Gerben42]

All vulnerable, what do you open in first seat on:

3
6
QJ85
AK97543

Bonus question: Do you bid anything else at a more favourable vulnerability?

[whereagles]

Hum.. good thing I have a 3NT gadget available, otherwise I'd have to strech my imagination a bit.. lol

[Gpm_bg]

none of these
1♦ is my bid.
1♣ i don't have good rebid; 2♣ is GF;3♣ i have additional good suit
3nt should be AKQ 6+ even 7th+
5♣ in vuln zone will be dangerous hardly for partner to bid slam

[hrothgar]

5♣ for me

Doubt that anyone will find this surprising

[han]

I voted 1C, although I have sympathy for Richard's choice.

The 3NT description isn't complete enough for me to bid it with this. If it shows this kind of hand, then sure I would bid it. I don't expect that it does though. I wonder why 2C is also given as an option. Again, if that shows this hand then I would bid it.

[helene_t]

lol, Han. You forgot to mention that iof 3♥ shows this hand, then you would open 3♥.

[Gerben42]

2♣ (strongest opening): I don't know why people would choose it but some love to open 2♣

3NT: Basically a 4-in-a-minor preempt but not a solid suit.

[hotShot]

There is no need to preempt with this hand.
If opps bid 4M, i can still bid 5♣, if they try 5M than I'm positive that the bad trump break, will bring them down.
So lets involve partner in this decision process.

[whereagles]

hotShot, on Jan 22 2007, 02:38 PM, said:

If opps bid 4M, i can still bid 5♣, if they try 5M than I'm positive that the bad trump break, will bring them down.
So lets involve partner in this decision process.

Well, you seem to have everything under control, so why do you need to ask pard anything?

[SoTired]

I vote for 4C because I promote good 7-4 to a 4-level opening. The hand is worth a 1C opening, but my own personal experience shows that the opps will enter the auction and partner will dbl their 4M contract, putting us in a quandry. Does partner have a trump stack or is partner counting on us for tricks? Does partner have undisclosed 3-card club support and our ♣AK will take only 1 trick, maybe none?

I resolve those issues by describing this hand well with a vulnerable 4C opening.

[pclayton]

Jlall, on Jan 22 2007, 07:55 AM, said:

Seems about worth 4C(or 3N in this case which seems to be my equivalent of 4C).

Ditto. We won't always find the magic 3N, since pard doesn't know about our ♦'s, but thats life.

My major suit stiffs argue for preemption.

[hotShot]

whereagles, on Jan 22 2007, 04:42 PM, said:

hotShot, on Jan 22 2007, 02:38 PM, said:

If opps bid 4M, i can still bid 5♣, if they try 5M than I'm positive that the bad trump break, will bring them down.
So lets involve partner in this decision process.

Well, you seem to have everything under control, so why do you need to ask pard anything?

Because I don't want to go down in 5♣, if they can't make 4M
and I want to be in 6/7♣ if partner has the right cards.

The necessary pieces of information, will come from the bids that are possible after a constructive 1♣ opening.

[mike777]

5c no problem yet.

[pbleighton]

5C is clear for me, though I know it's not everyone's cup of tea.

My second choice is 1C.

I wouldn't preempt below game level with this hand, it's too good.

Peter

[mikeh]

5♣ is extremely committal. 3N bars us from playing 3N when it is correct to do so and 1♣ may overstate the defensive value of the hand and allow the opps too easy an entry into the auction.

Nothing is right, but abstentions never work on panels and are not permitted at the table so I flip my special 3-sided coin and it lands with 5♣ showing. Thus 5♣ it is and if partner has Axxx Axxx Kxxxx void, and trump are 4-2, well -100 against a cold 1370 is far from the worst result I've had.

[BebopKid]

I would bid 1♦ with intentions of bidding clubs (a reverse) on my next bid.

[the hog]

5C.

[luckyloser]

5♣.....100
1♣.......30
else...........0

excellent description being vulnerable: about 4-5 losers in a c contract, few highcard-points. no interest in a major!! with many A and a mild c-fit p may raise. opps must guess!

opening 1♣ may lead to a better 3nt but has little effect on opps bidding. in fact it makes it easier for opps!

if 3nt shows a nonsolid minor, that may be good also but I never played that convention. for me 3nt would show a solid suit (even a major). obviously that hand is somewhere between 4c and 5c. if one cannot stop at 4c one may as well bid 5!

This post has been edited by luckyloser: 2007-January-25, 01:41