[the hog]

zasanya, on Jan 16 2007, 03:40 PM, said:

Walddk, on Jan 15 2007, 12:43 PM, said:

At the other table Michael Seamon opened the East hand 1♣, Garozzo overcalled 1♠ and was left to play there. Down 3 and 2 IMPs to All Stars.

Roland

A side issue but....
What is the"correct" opening bid in a natural system with 5-5 in black suits and less than reversible values?

There are 2 schools of thought on this. One school, those who bid in a vacuum and forget or ignore the fact that opponents exist, would open 1C and then bid S twice to show the 5/5. That is all well and good, but what do you do if you open 1C, the bidding is at the 4H level by the time it gets back to you and you don't have the values to bid 4S?

The 4 handed player's thinking is therefore to open 1S and to rebid 2S if pd bids 2 of a red suit. You open 1C IF you are happy to bid 4S over 4H at your next turn.

[Mr. Dodgy]

odd. you make a penalty pass, get the X from your partner, then want to bid? Well, yeah, I do. Partner seems to have a near-opener, we are close to game values, and I'm not sure the blood will run as freely as I'd like. I'm sorely tempted to punt 3N, or cue ♠s. I'm with Al - I'd have bid 1NT first time.

I lead ♥K, if it comes to that.

[Free]

Mr. Dodgy, on Jan 16 2007, 08:21 AM, said:

odd. you make a penalty pass, get the X from your partner, then want to bid? Well, yeah, I do. Partner seems to have a near-opener, we are close to game values, and I'm not sure the blood will run as freely as I'd like. I'm sorely tempted to punt 3N, or cue ♠s. I'm with Al - I'd have bid 1NT first time.

I lead ♥K, if it comes to that.

Is there any other reasonable bid than pass the first round? You can't double (no support in minors), you don't have a suit you can bid, and 1NT doesn't look healthy...