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Matchpoints against run-of-the-mill club opponents. Playing the usual North American moderne 2/1 stuff, 2♠ is a normal raise, 3♣ is limit raise or better with cards, 3♠ is a weak to moderate raise with shape and four or more spades, 4♣ or 4♦ are splinters, 4♠ is weak with five trumps and some shape. Partner will assume your weak bids contain a few high cards.
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A Tactical Decision with a Yarborough Matchpoints - to operate or not?
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Posted 2007-January-12, 01:03
Matchpoints against run-of-the-mill club opponents. Playing the usual North American moderne 2/1 stuff, 2♠ is a normal raise, 3♣ is limit raise or better with cards, 3♠ is a weak to moderate raise with shape and four or more spades, 4♣ or 4♦ are splinters, 4♠ is weak with five trumps and some shape. Partner will assume your weak bids contain a few high cards.
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Posted 2007-January-12, 01:56
Hi,
3S.
It is not clear if they can make anything,
and it is not clear that we can make anything.
If partner raises to 4s, he should have a fair
chance to make it.
You can sell me 4S, but you are playing MP.
It would be tougher, if partner would have
opened 1H.
Partner will expect a weak hand with 4 trumps,
shape and some high cards?
I wonder how such a hand looks like.
I think 3S is normal, you have 5 trumps, and
a single.
With kind regards
Marlowe
3S.
It is not clear if they can make anything,
and it is not clear that we can make anything.
If partner raises to 4s, he should have a fair
chance to make it.
You can sell me 4S, but you are playing MP.
It would be tougher, if partner would have
opened 1H.
Partner will expect a weak hand with 4 trumps,
shape and some high cards?
I wonder how such a hand looks like.
I think 3S is normal, you have 5 trumps, and
a single.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-January-12, 07:28
Seems like an obvious 4♠ bid to me 
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Posted 2007-January-12, 07:47
I have to pass in this partnership, since "Partner will assume your weak bids contain a few high cards."
However, this is not an agreement I would agree to. This is a clear 4S raise to me.
Peter
However, this is not an agreement I would agree to. This is a clear 4S raise to me.
Peter
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Posted 2007-January-12, 08:36
Not truly a Yarborough. 4♠.
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Posted 2007-January-12, 10:07
Jlall, on Jan 12 2007, 07:22 AM, said:
3S at this vul, color me yellow.
Youre at green bubba.
Frances had a poll on a very similar hand a few months ago. Do we tap dance with something or blast? MSC has a problem like too, except the hand had 6 or 7 spades; which made higher preemption more tempting, but I think 4♠ was still chosen.
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Posted 2007-January-12, 10:28
The panel has this hand right. 4♠ might have ended the auction. But, this isn't your day, the bidding continues:Scoring: MP
P-1♠-2♣-4♠
5♣-DBL-P-???
P-1♠-2♣-4♠
5♣-DBL-P-???
How many tricks in this hand? How are they split? If I do pass, what do I lead?
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Posted 2007-January-12, 10:39
pclayton, on Jan 12 2007, 11:07 AM, said:
Jlall, on Jan 12 2007, 07:22 AM, said:
3S at this vul, color me yellow.
Youre at green bubba.
Frances had a poll on a very similar hand a few months ago. Do we tap dance with something or blast? MSC has a problem like too, except the hand had 6 or 7 spades; which made higher preemption more tempting, but I think 4♠ was still chosen.
ohhhh then mark me down with 4S
hell yeah.
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Posted 2007-January-12, 10:40
jdeegan, on Jan 12 2007, 11:28 AM, said:
The panel has this hand right. 4♠ might have ended the auction. But, this isn't your day, the bidding continues:Scoring: MP
P-1♠-2♣-4♠
5♣-DBL-P-???
P-1♠-2♣-4♠
5♣-DBL-P-???
How many tricks in this hand? How are they split? If I do pass, what do I lead?
Pass..whats the problem? Partner is not counting on me for any tricks. I have bid my hand and partner has Xed in front of me. I'm not invited to bid any more.
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Posted 2007-January-12, 10:59
Jlall, on Jan 12 2007, 11:40 AM, said:
jdeegan, on Jan 12 2007, 11:28 AM, said:
The panel has this hand right. 4♠ might have ended the auction. But, this isn't your day, the bidding continues:Scoring: MP
P-1♠-2♣-4♠
5♣-DBL-P-???
P-1♠-2♣-4♠
5♣-DBL-P-???
How many tricks in this hand? How are they split? If I do pass, what do I lead?
Pass..whats the problem? Partner is not counting on me for any tricks. I have bid my hand and partner has Xed in front of me. I'm not invited to bid any more.
In fact, partner has made a very strong request that you NOT bid anymore. If this makes, it ain't your fault...
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Posted 2007-January-12, 11:34
jdeegan, on Jan 12 2007, 11:28 AM, said:
The panel has this hand right. 4♠ might have ended the auction. But, this isn't your day, the bidding continues:Scoring: MP
P-1♠-2♣-4♠
5♣-DBL-P-???
P-1♠-2♣-4♠
5♣-DBL-P-???
How many tricks in this hand? How are they split? If I do pass, what do I lead?
Hi,
did you promise a defencive trick with 3S / 4S?
No.
Would a pass by partner be forcing?
No.
Pass.
With kind regards
Marlowe
PS: Lead a spade, most likely it wont destroy anything,
a trump lead is a distant option, but you know, that
we have most likely not the bal. of power.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-January-12, 11:36
Diamond lead could actually be a killer... but at table we'd all lead a spade 95% of the time.
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Posted 2007-January-12, 11:37
Side question - Ive been using a direct 3N as a preemptive raise with a trick over 1 major. I also use it over x's.
Any sense in using it over overcalls? Doesnt seem to since 3N should be natural, and it shuts out LHO from making a lead director.
Any sense in using it over overcalls? Doesnt seem to since 3N should be natural, and it shuts out LHO from making a lead director.
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