[sceptic]

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Why would a top professional player even risk such a thing? It has happened, and it will happen again.

a few reasons spring to mind, the first is because they can

another is why do so many athletes cheat, because others do and as soon as it is rife everyone will do it to get a competative edge

imagine someone young and on the way up, cheats a few times to get results early on in his or her career, when he is at the top, he is still a cheat, he may be a cheat on a sabatical or just waiting for an opportunity to do it again

if I had worked real hard to get to the top and I had to play against someone, that was good, but not top class, in fact not quite good enough to be top flight, that needed to pay someone hundreds of thousands of dollars to play with them or more to the point, to carry them at this level because they are not good enough to make it with out the cash,

Why does it suprise people that even at the top level there are cheats

winning by cheating or wimnning by using your financial wealth, which is most deplorable... I know some nice cheats, I dont know anyone nice that uses money to get what they want


anyway I would hate to be a body that has to manage this situation, but at least they try, cheats are about and always will be about, it is a fact of life

[neilkaz]

My appologies for those who may not agree with me here, but if you start a controversial thread, you can expect some enthusiastic answers.

Over the past 30 years I have been cheated several times at backgammon for serious stakes.

Trust me that, while on the surface many of these people are quite charming, they all share one thing in common. They are the scum of the earth, and about all that matters to them is money, often made by stealing others'.

Cheaters in backgammon aren't nice people and it also isn't any different in bridge.

.. neilkaz ..

[1eyedjack]

neilkaz, on Nov 27 2006, 02:07 AM, said:

Over the past 30 years I have been cheated several times at backgammon for serious stakes.

I am intrigued. How can you cheat at backgammon?

[csdenmark]

Anybody who have heard of doping test in bridge?

[csdenmark]

I have tried to look up what kind of doping tests the bridge community has committed itself to apply to. Not very much it looks like.

WBF(World Bridge Federation) has accepted WADA code for Olympic's.
This link from WADA into WBF is dead. Bridge (WBF) World Bridge Federation

Search for such kind of topics seems not possible on WBF site.

Search for Doping on ACBL returned 0 results. Same for EBF.

Danish Bridge Federation seems not to be a member of any organization which is committed to conduct doping tests.

All this looks suspicious to me. Doping is the most obvious way for for top-professionals for cheating. Looks like being a safe way too

[Walddk]

csdenmark, on Nov 27 2006, 02:40 PM, said:

I have tried to look up what kind of doping tests the bridge community has committed itself to apply to. Not very much it looks like.

WBF(World Bridge Federation) has accepted WADA code for Olympic's.
This link from WADA into WBF is dead. Bridge (WBF) World Bridge Federation

Search for such kind of topics seems not possible on WBF site.

Search for Doping on ACBL returned 0 results. Same for EBF.

Danish Bridge Federation seems not to be a member of any organization which is committed to conduct doping tests.

All this looks suspicious to me. Doping is the most obvious way for for top-professionals for cheating. Looks like being a safe way too

Not true. With a minimum of effort you would have found the following links:

http://tinyurl.com/yldlmq (made into a tinyurl by me)

and

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/

Since the Danish Bridge Federation is a member of the WBF, all anti-doping regulations apply for that federation too.

Roland

[ArcLight]

If you accept bad behavior, whether its cheating (or graft by politicians) it becomes accepted as normal and more common.

If its "known" that cheating is common then it ruins the fun for those who don't cheat and don't win as they may think they were cheated.

This came up at the table:
Pard opens 1NT (15-17), RHO passes, I pass (maybe I had 7 HCP)
and LHO asks "Pard are we useing CAPP or DONT"

This is a pick up game and I have no problem with opps agreeing on a defense.
RHO says "How about Pass" and LHO passed.

It was just a meaningless pick up game, but I was annoyed at that brazen behaviour. I privately told the opps that was unethical behaviour, they got mad at me, and I asked them to leave my table (privately). (Of course I blacklisted them)

[kenberg]

Arc, I got quite a chuckle out of that. As with the case (also in a pick-up game) where an opponent took a failing finesse and then asked for an undo, I like to think they were joking. Unfortunately, I am not so sure they were.

[pigpenz]

simple usually there is money involved....they feel the pressure to peform and do well for the sponsor.