Also, how clear is your bid?
KQJ983 J T432 AQ How bold/disciplined are you?
#1
Posted 2006-November-11, 17:50
Also, how clear is your bid?
#2 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-November-11, 18:13
#3
Posted 2006-November-11, 18:44
Says if we have 16-18 working hcp we should make 3 spades.
#4
Posted 2006-November-11, 19:00
Double. High offense to defense ratio, but flexible. A spade lead from a stiff, with the stiff trump Jack and a side entry, makes for good defense if partner leaves it in.
-P.J. Painter.
#5
Posted 2006-November-11, 20:31
3S Bridge is a bidders game and this hand screams for a 3S bid.
It could go wrong 'if' you have a poor pair opposite that do not play maximal doubles. That 3H bid by a decent pair merely suggests a nine card fit.
I make a lot of doubles, however, this hand seems much more like a 3S bid than to give partner a choice. If partner holds a stiff spade, your double may pay off, however, 'if' you double with this hand partner will be pulling on many more auctions where he should be passing for penalty.
With xx of spades opposite AKxxx J Kxxx Axx partner would pass a double of 3H and your side would still be taking tricks for a long while.
Regards,
Robert
#6
Posted 2006-November-11, 21:55
Peter
#7
Posted 2006-November-11, 23:28
If they push onward to 4♥ I'll double since if they make it at MPs I think I'm in for a poor score anyhow. Their bidding suggests that they have a 9 card fit but not enough to have good chances at game.... ie PD is marked with a trick or two.
.. neilkaz ..
#8
Posted 2006-November-12, 04:40
2S the round before, I will pass now.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#9
Posted 2006-November-12, 10:25
#10
Posted 2006-November-12, 13:35
Double makes me wince. It is asking for -530.
#11
Posted 2006-November-12, 13:53
FrancesHinden, on Nov 12 2006, 08:35 PM, said:
Double makes me wince. It is asking for -530.
Might I just ask: what is it about IMP scoring that stops you bidding 3S?
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#12 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-November-12, 19:24
1eyedjack, on Nov 12 2006, 02:53 PM, said:
FrancesHinden, on Nov 12 2006, 08:35 PM, said:
Double makes me wince. It is asking for -530.
Might I just ask: what is it about IMP scoring that stops you bidding 3S?
Not to answer for Frances but the upside of bidding is now negligible (for instance, -50 or -100 instead of -140, or +140 instead of +50 or +100) and the downside is now worse (-500 etc). At IMPS if you are going to bid 3S over 3H you should think that both 3H and 3S might make. At MP you have to consider the size of your plus or minus as well.
#13
Posted 2006-November-13, 07:40
Jlall, on Nov 13 2006, 02:24 AM, said:
1eyedjack, on Nov 12 2006, 02:53 PM, said:
FrancesHinden, on Nov 12 2006, 08:35 PM, said:
Double makes me wince. It is asking for -530.
Might I just ask: what is it about IMP scoring that stops you bidding 3S?
Not to answer for Frances but the upside of bidding is now negligible (for instance, -50 or -100 instead of -140, or +140 instead of +50 or +100) and the downside is now worse (-500 etc). At IMPS if you are going to bid 3S over 3H you should think that both 3H and 3S might make. At MP you have to consider the size of your plus or minus as well.
OK, I see what you mean, now. It was the possibility of a double partscore swing that mainly concerned me. I would expect (quite possibly in error) to get sufficiently close to 3S that they will be reluctant to double (being generally more reluctant to double into game at IMP than at MP). Anyway, I agree that there is a stronger case at MP. I just thought that the case for doing so at IMP, while weaker, was not so weak as to justify on balance it being correct to pass. But I will accept what others say on that front.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq

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