on-line etiquette guidelines on compliments, etc.
#21
Posted 2006-November-07, 18:44
Having somewhat poo pooed this initially I was kibitzing a table today when a hand was declared poorly and the one of the opps said “A gift”. That makes me want to reach across the table a throttle the player, the person who played it will know they did poorly. I doubt trying to educate these ignorant *(&*^ will have much effect, perhaps one of the new rooms could be called ‘Patsys Polite Players Paradise”
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
#22
Posted 2006-November-07, 18:54
I see this types of comments all the time in the late night tourneys. I grit me teeth and smile. Heck just look at young starred late night tables and see the 4 letter words fly 
Too be fair it is late night soooo.
In the ACBL tourneys I am all for the directors stepping in and saying something but they almost never do, my guess is we do not complain to them late night.
Too be fair it is late night soooo.
In the ACBL tourneys I am all for the directors stepping in and saying something but they almost never do, my guess is we do not complain to them late night.
#23
Posted 2006-November-07, 18:58
mike777, on Nov 7 2006, 05:54 PM, said:
Too be fair it is late night soooo. 
Late night where?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
#24
Posted 2006-November-07, 19:45
My answer, not much of one, is that some folks might read this thread and give a little thought to their comments at the table. In fact, people vary a lot in sensitivity. The other night, playing f2f, pard opened a heart and I passed it out holding Axx/xxx/xxxx/Jxx. Since pard held KQx/AJTxx/x/AKQx this was not our best contract. Afterwards my rho commented that I should not have passed. No doubt that violates someone's rules but I don't take such comments as wrong at all. He and I have discussed bridge before, he may be right, I had considered biddng but decided not to, he is talking about the way he sees things, and it's fine. With me, it's fine. It's these inane wdps that can drive me up a wall.
Mostly I try not to take offense when none is intended, so say what you want. I'll live. But going on about partner's brilliance after the opponents have clearly fed you is a bit tacky.
Ken
Mostly I try not to take offense when none is intended, so say what you want. I'll live. But going on about partner's brilliance after the opponents have clearly fed you is a bit tacky.
Ken
Ken
#25
Posted 2007-April-25, 23:49
Feeling a little guilty about having started 2 threads this month, when i wanted to start a string about etiquette I typed in manners and ended here,
Is it just me (and my legendary luck) or are the evolving generation of players turning out to be more polite than us bunch of **************** . I have played about 400 hands this week (both on and offline) and the only people who have been rude to me should know better.
I think we may be heading for the new ultimate insult - glp wouldn't have bid it quite like that - last hand here.
Wow I love BBO and now because I'm not sober enough to play, I'm abusing the message boards, bet noone pulls me up on it!
Is it just me (and my legendary luck) or are the evolving generation of players turning out to be more polite than us bunch of **************** . I have played about 400 hands this week (both on and offline) and the only people who have been rude to me should know better.
I think we may be heading for the new ultimate insult - glp wouldn't have bid it quite like that - last hand here.
Wow I love BBO and now because I'm not sober enough to play, I'm abusing the message boards, bet noone pulls me up on it!
#26
Posted 2007-April-26, 01:14
pigpenz, on Nov 7 2006, 04:31 AM, said:
speaking of ethics, it would be nice to see someone not accept a misclick and correct to the proper result but I am sure if would almost never happen here
I had one the other day where my right hand led j♠ into q10♠ in dummy
i was busy thinking and tried to now play to next trick but it turned out i had played 10♠...my left hand opp was yelling at me to now play but I had to say sorry your partner won the trick
I had one the other day where my right hand led j♠ into q10♠ in dummy
i was busy thinking and tried to now play to next trick but it turned out i had played 10♠...my left hand opp was yelling at me to now play but I had to say sorry your partner won the trick
When is a misclick not a misclick? That is the question.
Personally I think that the interests of the game would be better served if all bids and plays were deemed to be deliberate, whether actually so or not, and you take your medicine and move on. If as a player you are significantly more prone to misclicks than other players then it is prima facie that some of them do not qualify as misclicks. If you are no more prone then in the long term you would not suffer - all it requires is a level playing field.
In an ideal world the correction of genuine misclicks would result in a better game. But we should recognise that this ideal is a pipedream, and that recognition argues for a set of rules which best copes with that shortfall. In the meantime the potential for controversy over whether a particular event qualifies as a misclick adds uncertainty to the application of law. Both uncertainty and consequential inconsistency in its application are negative features.
This particular example is a case in point. I think that there is a strong argument that if you played ♠T because your thought processes and concentration were misplaced, this is a matter on which you should be justly punished and might not qualify as a misclick.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#27
Posted 2007-April-26, 04:51
I agree with the condemnation of excessive praise - but it depends on your partner's skill whether a "wdp" is warranted or not. When a beginner makes even a simple contract in an appropriate way, a "wdp" can be appropriate and appreciated. I may not give such approbation when an expert manages a straightforward contract.
Praise should always be given, if appropriate, and, sometimes, even when not appropriate!
Praise should always be given, if appropriate, and, sometimes, even when not appropriate!
#28
Posted 2007-April-26, 05:22
My opinion is you should not say anything that might be considered inappropriate by your opponents. Also if opps do something good, praise them.
#29
Posted 2007-April-30, 00:19
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Wow I love BBO and now because I'm not sober enough to play, I'm abusing the message boards, bet noone pulls me up on it!
Paul having seen one of your recent posts, we had assumed you had a drink problem

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