[Echognome]

Scoring: XIMP

(1♥) - ?

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RHO opens 1♥. What's your bidding plan?

[mike777]

x for now.

[whereagles]

yup, dbl. will bid spades or NT later

[awm]

I don't like our chances of game all that much if partner can't find a call over 1♠. The issue is that we're not all that likely to have a heart stopper for 3NT given my many small cards. Double seems to misdescribe the shape.

I'd go with 1♠ overcall, then tend to pass unless partner bids (unless opponents get too high and I can penalty double).

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

X, followed by X, although I may consider passing
the next round in case they bit clubs as well and
partner passes.

I dont think 8xxx is a stopper, when they have bid
a 5 card suit, so NT bids are out for me.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[pclayton]

I think double followed by spades, is a close relative to a 1♠ overcall.

I like double a little better, because we might have a club fit instead of spades. If pard rebids clubs, after I bid 2♠, I might have my eye on 5♣. I still think there's time to get to the nice moysian if I double 1st.

Any number of NT now or later is really bad, as it will be totally wrongsided. Unless there is some sick blockage, we'll take a maximum of 8 tricks in NT.

[temp3600]

Other : I'd start with 1S, but the second call is unclear. Pass is quite possible.

[Gpm_bg]

I'm agree with upper toughts for X at first time,
the second rebid is reasonable to be cuebid ♥, it's a hardly situation partner to have 3+cards in hearts.
rebid NT is not correct for me. If you guaranteed stopper in hearts, why don't bid 1NT first time ?
Most common sequence bids for me seem to be something like
1♥ X Pass 2♣/2♦(from the partner ) Pass 2♥rebid P and it's should be enough forsing for him, with single or void in ♥ the game is ready to be bidded.

1♥ X Pass 1♠ well 2♥ same

btw will be interesting if partner have ♥ stopper and he/she to bid 2NT

Any variants could be possible but for me that is my way first Dbl, then Cue Bid
i think that the game will be not missed with accurate cards in my partner

[Apollo81]

Echognome, on Oct 28 2006, 08:49 PM, said:

Scoring: XIMP

(1♥) - ?

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RHO opens 1♥.  What's your bidding plan?

Put me in the "downgrade because of heart holding" camp. 1♠ overcall for me.

[mikeh]

This is a classic example of a hand on which hcp don't mean much. It is a rare hand that holds 19 hcp, mostly in controls, that has as little playing strength as this one does....

Of course, this hand is the type that can radically improve if the bidding takes a fortuitous turn, but, until then, this is a hand on which to swing low.

So 1♠ for me.

On a good day, partner raises ♠s and off we go.

Double and then ♠s is 'right' on hcp... we are indeed full values on a 4-3-2-1 scale, but hell will freeze over before I make that call on a 4 card suit with 4 quick losers in RHO's suit.

Having overcalled, I will go quietly unless partner makes a noise or LHO raises. If LHO raises (other than limit or better) I will double, since partner will be marked with short ♥. He should not (well, I say that looking at my hand, but I think it is true) simply bid 2♠ if he is Jx x xxxxx xxxxx.

[ArcLight]

If we have 4 hearts and RHO has at least 5, pard is probably short.
He is likely to have another suit (assume the 4 remaining hearts are 2-2). Pard can eaily have a 4 card spade suit.

I DBL and pard will strain to bid the major.
A Spade overcall may mislead pard in the length of our spade suit fit.

If I DBL and LHO bids hearts then its likely pard has 1 heart or a void.

The danger is pard will have 2 hearts, 3 spades, and 4-4 in the minors. Or 5 Diamonds, resulting in a 5-2 fit.

I would rather pards long weak minor be trumps than my spades in a high level 4-3 fit, if pard cant ruff hearts.

[Echognome]

As an update as it happens it doesn't matter if you double or bid 1♠ first. Partner has 5♠ and a singleton heart. I don't remember his exact hand, but I know that you don't want to be in slam (which happens to make because the ♦K comes down trebleton).

[jdeegan]

1♠ for me too. A double is like shooting ones self in the foot. After 1♠ I expect the bidding to go pass-pass-dbl. Now I can redouble, and our side should be well placed.

[the hog]

I concur with Phil's thinking. X is superior because it leaves open the option of a C contract. I certainly would not object if my parthner decided to bid 1S on this hand.