Rudeness at Live Bridge Clubs
#1
Posted 2006-October-16, 13:03
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#2
Posted 2006-October-16, 13:11
#3
Posted 2006-October-16, 13:38
jb
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
#4
Posted 2006-October-16, 13:38
But nonetheless directors have a decision to make: do you censure the rude players (assess penalties of some sort, ban them from the club, etc) or let it slide? To some degree this decision will be made out of laziness (it's easier to avoid confronting the unpleasant folks) but to a great degree it's probably made in the perceived interest of the club. If it was obvious that a significant number of people were choosing not to play at the club because of one or two bad eggs, the chances go up that directors (or the club owners, or committee running the club or whatever) will decide to do something. If it seems like people occasionally complain about the rudeness but they come back anyway, less likely something will be done.
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#5
Posted 2006-October-16, 15:04
I guess its human nature for people to be that way
#6
Posted 2006-October-17, 14:12
#7
Posted 2006-October-17, 19:57
#9
Posted 2006-October-18, 12:37
The owner/TD did everything to be nice to the rude players (ruled in their favour, glossed over the rudeness, and so on) because he knew that the rude players wouldn't be back if he played everything straight, and the rude players played 3,4,5 games a week.
Unfortunately, the rude, but regular players were either LNs (or Life Intermediates, at best) or "think-they're-experts", and the people they were rude to were frequently real experts, or close enough (I know of four who were selected for international competition at one point or another). They said the Canadian equivalent of "blow this for a game of soldiers", and played home games, or drove to another city to play there, or (given that a lot of these were university students) migrated online.
So the quality of the game got worse, as all the experts and juniors left. So the good and not rude players, who would put up with a few rude sets of opponents for the challenge of the rest of the game, gradually found no benefit to playing in the club as opposed to home games or online, so they stopped coming as well.
So, by now I expect (it's been a few years) that all the rude players are huddled in one corner sniping at each other. But they're still p(l)aying, which is good, right?
Michael.
#10
Posted 2006-October-19, 03:49
sceptic, on Oct 18 2006, 10:43 PM, said:
I'll try that next time. I find it very difficult to say, in a clam, neutral voice, something "Sir/Madam, your behavior is most disruptive, please use decent language". I tend to either
- Try to pretend that I ignore them
- Argue, in a calm, neutral voice, about the subject they are arguing about.
- Shout back.
- Change the subject.
Neither of those four strategies work, though.
On a few occasions I've called the director but they have been unwilling to try to do something about it.
#11
Posted 2006-October-19, 12:52
While I would not suggest anyone should be rude at a bridge game (at the table or otherwise), there are times when the only way to deal with rude people is to be rude right back at them*. For players, I recommend you let the TD make that decision and take that action.
Rudeness in bridge will stop when two things happen: the TD is called each and every time rudeness occurs (including when an opponent is being rude to his partner) and the TD explains (the first time) that rudeness will not be tolerated and penalizes the player (every other time, and the first time too, if the offense is serious enough).
*Years ago, in another ficton, a Fair Witness replied thusly to an Irascible Old Man:
IOM: Have you ever seen me be rude to a lady?
FW: I have never seen you be rude to a lady. I have seen you be intentionally rude to a woman.
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#12
Posted 2006-October-19, 13:26
My answer if I lived in my mother's hometown would be I would play despite the rude people... my answer where live with many choices is I would let my money go to a sight that disallows such behavior.
#13
Posted 2006-October-19, 16:14
I appreciate that it is a long journey for some, but we do finish by 10:30pm.
Paul

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