[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

4S, what else?

It does not really matter, if the opponents are
good or not, if they are faced with the task to
describe a hand after a 4S preempt, ... the task
has got very hard.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[brianshark]

But you can pre-empt your partner as well as your opponents. Partner could have a healthy share of the remaining points as well, in which case, a slam might easily be on.

[FrancesHinden]

The_Hog, on Oct 17 2006, 04:36 AM, said:

4S is such an obvious opening I must be missing something in the original post.

I can't really see a normal alternative to 4S. If partner doesn't expect this type of hand, what will he expect? We are vul against not, 4S shows a good hand.

[whereagles]

The_Hog, on Oct 17 2006, 03:36 AM, said:

4S is such an obvious opening I must be missing something in the original post.

I guess one might be tempted to open a gambling 3NT, if one's playing that the solid suit may be a major.

But even then I think 4♠ is probably better.

[zasanya]

microcap, on Oct 16 2006, 04:02 PM, said:

Rex opened 1♠, which turned into a disaster later but for other reasons than the opening bid  {All Rex's fault in case you were wondering!}

But I think this is clearly a preempt from experience.  I know it fulfills the Rule of 22 and such things, but in real life, you have 1 trick on defense and 7 on offense.  And why give opponents all the room in the world to find their minor fit [or even possibly ♥ ] over a simple 1♠ bid.

Hands with concentrated values need to be on offense.

Open 4♠ all day long IMO.

I think I recognize this hand.Why not tell them the full story? Rex too may have something to say .lol.

[inquiry]

Well of course, pass has to be out of the question.. imagine you hold a hand like this...

Scoring: IMP

Pass-Pass-1D-2H
2S - 3H - 4C -Pass
4S - Pass - ?

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Imagine you hold this hand. Your parnter didnt' open 1S nor 2S nor 3S. How can his spades be good enough to underright a slam ppposite doubleton Jx. I held this hand and passed. We missed very easy 6S as partner held

AKQT9xx xx xx xx

You simply can't be passing these hands.

[the hog]

"But you can pre-empt your partner as well as your opponents."

Not really - read Frances' post above. Vul vs not, you HAVE to have good S. If anything, the opening makes partner's decision easier. I can't believe anyone passed!!!!!!!!!!????