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Scoring: IMP
Weak-NT,ACOL-Major-first-style
pd opens 1♦ RHO 2SA (5-5-Majors), do You double for Your desire
to play 3Major doubled?
Say You double, RHO bids a natural 3♣, pd and RHO pass.
What is Your bid?
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Is pd's pass forcing?
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Posted 2006-September-26, 07:33
Weak-NT,ACOL-Major-first-style
pd opens 1♦ RHO 2SA (5-5-Majors), do You double for Your desire
to play 3Major doubled?
Say You double, RHO bids a natural 3♣, pd and RHO pass.
What is Your bid?
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Posted 2006-September-26, 07:49
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Posted 2006-September-26, 08:24
Opener's pass is not forcing, so I will pass. With this said, I would not have doubled 2NT. Nothing suggests that this hand belongs to us. Finally, I have never heard that 2NT over 1♦ shows the majors (assuming that SA stands for Sans Atout = notrump).
Roland
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Posted 2006-September-26, 10:06
e552787, on Sep 26 2006, 09:33 AM, said:
Scoring: IMP
Weak-NT,ACOL-Major-first-style
pd opens 1♦ RHO 2SA (5-5-Majors), do You double for Your desire
to play 3Major doubled?
Say You double, RHO bids a natural 3♣, pd and RHO pass.
What is Your bid?
You should usually wait to make such a double when it is your side's hand. I wouldn't want to double 3♥ for penalty or compete over it, so I would pass 2NT.
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Posted 2006-September-26, 15:40
Hi,
unless your partnership agreement is different,
a double of 2NT creates a forcing pass seq.
Since you are not strong enough and since you
have no clear idea, what to do over 3H from
the oppoents, pass and hope they will stop in spades.
Not likely, but sometimes strange things happen.
If I did double 2NT, I have to double 3C.
With kind regards
Marlowe
unless your partnership agreement is different,
a double of 2NT creates a forcing pass seq.
Since you are not strong enough and since you
have no clear idea, what to do over 3H from
the oppoents, pass and hope they will stop in spades.
Not likely, but sometimes strange things happen.
If I did double 2NT, I have to double 3C.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2006-September-26, 17:06
Pd pass should be forcing. this is why i should have originally passed and not double.
After i double and the bid is back to me, im suppose to double with good clubs (this is penalty) bid a major to show a stoper and lack of stoper for the other major. 3D is probebly not forcing so with slam interest id start with a major bid.
This mistake of doubling for penalty because you have a long suit (spade here) is a very common mistake. suppose pastner opens 1NT and RHO overcall 2S, you hold a very weak hand with 6 spades, you know 2S wont make but still double is a bad bid, if you double the opponenets will probebly run but the big problem is that partner will doubl;e them now based on your first double.
To sum it, penalty double , show general strengh for defence not only for one potential contract.
After i double and the bid is back to me, im suppose to double with good clubs (this is penalty) bid a major to show a stoper and lack of stoper for the other major. 3D is probebly not forcing so with slam interest id start with a major bid.
This mistake of doubling for penalty because you have a long suit (spade here) is a very common mistake. suppose pastner opens 1NT and RHO overcall 2S, you hold a very weak hand with 6 spades, you know 2S wont make but still double is a bad bid, if you double the opponenets will probebly run but the big problem is that partner will doubl;e them now based on your first double.
To sum it, penalty double , show general strengh for defence not only for one potential contract.
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