[ron]

Scoring: MP

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You play 2/1 GF with forcing NT, and hold the above hand.
Partner deals and opens 1H, and right hand opponent passes.
What is your bidding plan?

[mike777]

1S

Will rebid 2h over 2D.

Will pass if partner rebids 1nt.

[hrothgar]

1NT, intending to show clubs after any rebid other than 2♠

[kenrexford]

I start with 1♠. I have no heart fit, four spades, and not enough to bid at the two-level. This seems straight-forward.

If partner bids 1NT, I bid 2NT, a relay to 3♣, which I will pass.

If partner rebids 2♣, instead, I look att he opponents with a pitying look that they are so afraid to bid.

If partner bids 2♦, I am unhappy. But, I suppose I must false preference.

I pass 2♥.

I'll wait to discuss higher calls only if relevant.

[P_Marlowe]

1S, I will correct to 2H unless partner
bids 1NT, which I will pass.
Ugly but thats it.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: If you play weak jumb shifts you can bid 3C direct,
also 1NT followed by 3C is an option, but I am not convinced
that clubs play 2 tricks better that hearts, since you are at the
3 level.

[whereagles]

I'm going to gamble that 3♣ plays better than 2♥ and that pard doesn't have 11-14 with 4 spades.

1NT + 3♣ thus. If pard rebids 2♥ or 2♠, I'll reconsider, of course.

[pclayton]

There's enough disparity in my black suits that I want to get to clubs. Getting to clubs is difficult if pard rebids 1N (I have to have some sort of Walsh or xyz gadget) and impossible if pard rebids 2 red.

I'll start with 1N.

[mikeh]

1♠

I don't think this hand is quite right to commit unilaterally to 3♣... which I can do via 1N and then 3♣ over any 2 red suit... if he bids anything other than 2 red suit, I'm usually going to be ok.

I bid 1♠ to hear partner's rebid: if he rebids 2♥, I am passing, happy to be in a 6-1 2-level major rather than a possibly 6-1 or 6-2 3 level minor. That stiff J looks like adequate trump support in that context.

The only downside to 1♠ is a 2♦ rebid, in which case I bid 2♥ and hope that my J10 of ♦ will be useful.

Admittedly, I am comforted by the knowledge that I can reach 3♣ if he rebids 1N: for me 2N is a puppet to 3♣, showing a variety of hand-types, including a desire to play 3♣.

If I did not have that gadget, and if my red suit cards were 'x's, I'd choose 1N now, en route to 3♣ next.

[kgr]

What is :
1H-1S
1NT-2C
in standard 2/1
Is 2C a standard convention in 2/1 (eg nmf) or is it forcing anyway?

[mike777]

I would think the vast majority of good players treat it as some form of checkback.

I would never risk passing it in a pickup game with an expert partner.

[P_Marlowe]

kgr, on Sep 14 2006, 01:10 PM, said:

What is :
1H-1S
1NT-2C
in standard 2/1
Is 2C a standard convention in 2/1 (eg nmf) or is it forcing anyway?

it is forcing, the only question is,
is it natural.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[the hog]

P_Marlowe, on Sep 15 2006, 08:10 AM, said:

kgr, on Sep 14 2006, 01:10 PM, said:

What is :
1H-1S
1NT-2C
in standard 2/1
Is 2C a standard convention in 2/1 (eg nmf) or is it forcing anyway?

it is forcing, the only question is,
is it natural.

With kind regards
Marlowe

In natural methods, 2C is NOT FORCING, as the 1NT bid has limited the hand. Most people however play soem artificial checkback mechanism these days.

[akhare]

ron, on Sep 13 2006, 08:22 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

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You play 2/1 GF with forcing NT, and hold the above hand.
Partner deals and opens 1H, and right hand opponent passes.
What is your bidding plan?

1♠, intending to bid 3♣ over 1N (2♣ would be conventional). Of course on a bad day, pard might bid 2♦ and I will pass that.

Note that the jump showing the weak 6-4 isn't standard treatment and some people play that as showing a massive black hand w/ slam interest!!!