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HOW TO BID SAYC

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Posted 2006-July-31, 17:20

HOW DO YOU INTERPRIT YOUR PARNER BID
NORTH1C EAST PASS SOUTH 1D WEST DBL NORTH PASS EAST 2C [YOUR PRTNER] TX [
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Posted 2006-July-31, 17:28

i think its best to play 2C as natural here.
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Posted 2006-July-31, 17:39

I would interpret the 2 club bid as being natural, showing decent clubs, and not some sort of cue bid. RHO opened 1C which could be on a 3-card suit (for some, even a 2-card suit). If I wish to make some sort of cue bid to show extra values or ask partner to bid his/her better major, I usually cue the suit that was bid to my left (assuming that the bid was not artificial). The reason is that I am much less likely to want to play in a suit bid to my left, sitting behind me, than in a suit to my right where I am sitting behind the person who initially bid the suit (finesses are more likely to be successful in the suit).

I can't state for sure that there is universal agreement on this, but it seems logical.

Consider the following bidding sequence (somewhat related to the topic): LHO bids 1 club, partner passes, rho bids 1 heart, and you bid 2 hearts. This is natural, showing a good heart suit and a reason to bid. Again, you are sittting behind the person who initially bid the suit.

Hope that this is helpful. Can't wait for everyone to disagree with me. lolololol.

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Posted 2006-July-31, 17:41

This should be natural. Notice that doubler promises 4-4 in the majors so there isn't a real need to look for opener's "better major" unlike in the auction 1-X-P... where opener could be 4-3 or even 3-3 majors and there's some need to show two places to play.

Elianna and I (with some help from Josh Sher) have a fairly complete set of rules for when cuebids can and can't be natural. Basically:

(1) If partner has bid a suit naturally, then a call in a suit that opponents have bid naturally cannot be natural. So 1-1-P-2 is artificial. Usually this is a strong raise (or occasionally just a big hand if new suits would be NF).
(2) If only one suit has been bid naturally by the opponents then a bid in this suit cannot be natural. So 1-P-1NT-2 is artificial, but 1-P-1-2 is natural. Usually this shows a two-suited takeout (if at the two-level) or acts as a stopper ask (three-level).
(3) If the opponents have bid and raised a suit, then bidding that suit cannot be natural. So 1-P-1-P-2-3 is artificial, but 1-P-1-P-2-3 is natural.
(4) In most other situations "ambiguous" cuebids are natural.

While our agreements are more specific than anything in the sayc document, I believe they are fairly standard.
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