[neilkaz]

I often play with fine Turkish players and many of them want to play Multi, which admittadly I am not as familiar with as I could be.

Along with Multi they play the 2H and 2S show weak 5M,5m hands and I can find little info on this online or in any of my books.

So can someone link me to a website that explains, in detail, standard Turkish bidding (hopefully translatable into English)

Also, in Turkish Multi, does 2D show just a weak 2M, or a weak 2M or a 2NT or even a 3rd option ?

If showing a weak 2M or strong 2NT, then does a 2NT opening show 55 minors ?

Also are stronger 55 hands included in 2M openings ?

Anyhow..so many questions and I can find so little info in my online searches.

Please help me bid better when I play with Turkish players. .. neilkaz ..

[Mcauley]

mostly its based on french system.... 2D showing 6 card M or 19-21HCP 4441 hand, responses are : any 2H or 2S bid, pass or correct, 2nt 14+, 3cl or 3d any 6 card minor with 8-10, 3h or 3s 6 cards with 0-7hcp
any 3bid by opener after responders 2h or 2s, shows 19-21hcp and the next suit as singleton... if opener rebids 3cl after a 2h or 2s by his partner, that shows 19-21HCP with diamond singleton 4441

2h or 2s openings showing M+m with various length depending on partnership, for some 2nt is 14+ forcing, others playing ''ask for the minor''
i will try to find a detailed translation for all

[neilkaz]

Thx and looking forward to more info.

.. neilkaz ..

[pork rind]

im certainly the antithesis of a bidding expert, but i have played multi for years. the most common multi i see is wk in a major or bal either 20-22 or 23-24.
many debates over which strong nt to bid here.
i have also played multi with a 3 way meaning(several possibilities here), i liked showing the acol 2major as the 3rd. but alerting is so time consuming with some players that i gave that up.
i like to play 2nt as 5/5 plus minors any strength. i think you can actually play that in acbl land but prob not any strength.

i have played the 2h, 2s as 5/4 or 5/5 usually 7-11 pts. 5 in the major and 4/5 in either a minor or in other suit if opening 2s. 2nt asks the other suit here.

there is a lot in the web written about multi. i usually dont find that the turkish players perse play it much differently than most other europeans, but individuals may. its always wise to ask partner how he usually plays it or simply tell him the way you want to play it. most are thoroughly familiar with it.

good luck tom

[Double !]

Just curious.
What ever happened to the third possible meaning of multi 2-diamonds (a weak 2M, a strong, balanced hand - pick your hcp range), or an acol 2-bid in a minor?

DHL

[pork rind]

i never played it that way(with the minor) but i have played with some people the an opening 3c or 3d was a running suit asking pard to take the best action. tom

[Nadreck]

The multi with an Acol 2 in minor allowed the amusing auction (for opponents) of
2D - Pass - Pass - Pass making 7 when partner forgot to allow for Acol 2 in Diamonds

Perhaps this is one reason for its demise

[1eyedjack]

The thought of tying to get the words "Multi 2D" and "Standard" into the same sentence makes my brain curdle. In the UK there are almost as many variants of Multi 2D in operation as there are bridgeplayers who play the Multi. Why should we assume it is different in Turkey?

[helene_t]

Double !, on Aug 1 2006, 01:42 AM, said:

What ever happened to the third possible meaning of multi 2-diamonds (a weak 2M, a strong, balanced hand - pick your hcp range), or an acol 2-bid in a minor?

Those hands can better be opened 1m. If you open 2♦, either opps will interfere and/or partner will preempt 3♥ and the auction becomes muddy.