[Joe de Balliol]

Scoring: IMP

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1H P P X
1S 1N X P
2H P P X
P P ???

EW are pickups, as are NS but they are both juniors and know each other to be juniors at heart in the auction.

J

[SoTired]

sorry - too late. there is no way to say, "0 to 5" and later, "I have 6". All bidding info is accumulative. Mistakes are mistakes. South is only 1 point heavy, anyway. Not likely a death sentence. I think the orginal pass was a small mistake compared to the big blunder with the dbl of 1N.

Let's see, opener removed the 1NX because opener had no clue what the dbl meant (me too... although I would suspect it meant 55 in minors). In a confusing auction, a poor strategy is to further confuse it.

I would suspect opener is 4522, thinking how clever s/he was to show both suits at the 1-level. Now South has a choice of playing a 5-2 heart fit with a bad heart break offside, or a 4-3 spade fit with a bad spade break onside. Since South has a heart honor and it is possible (tho unlikely) that opener is 46, I think South should pass now.

[neilkaz]

South has a fine 6 pt hand. Why oh why, didn't he bid 1NT and whether forcing or not things have a better chance of coming out OK.

Now South is faces with playing a likely 52 H fit or a 43 S fit. I choose the H fit since I have Qx and just perhaps opener has 6 weakish hearts. On a real good day, maybe 8 tricks can be had as the opps may have missjudged. Opener really shouldn't have been bidding 1S in this action with a 45 bare min.

Anyhow...expect to go -1 for a loss of 100 which should be no disaster if the opps can make 1NT or something in D.

.. neilkaz ..

[SoTired]

BTW, making a silly mistake is common. I have bid straight blackwood, got a one ace answer, added that one ace to my one ace, got three and bid slam. TWICE.

[Free]

There is no right bid here, you have to make a last guess where you want opponents to guess in the first place (you and your partner making the well judged calls). Think before you do something unusual...

[kenrexford]

I'm not sure I understand the problem. I like 2HX. Sure, it might not make, but a heart cover card, an unexpected Ace on the side, and finesses expected to work in spades. Perhaps XX, for penalty???

[neilkaz]

kenrexford, on Jul 19 2006, 02:15 PM, said:

I'm not sure I understand the problem. I like 2HX. Sure, it might not make, but a heart cover card, an unexpected Ace on the side, and finesses expected to work in spades. Perhaps XX, for penalty???

Why xx..?? I just don't understand. If 2Hx makes you'll get a great score. If the opps have misscommunicated, they now get an out in 3D and do really think you have positive expancy whacking 3D ?

You never support H here..you doubled 1NT after passing, maybe PD will think xx means rescue. I won't take that chance and wouldn't dream of xx.

Just pass and hope 2Hx makes for a great score. .. neilkaz ..

[kenrexford]

My suggestion to redouble was in jest. I merely meant to underline that I feel no need to make up for a prior weak action. This decision turned out pretty well. Partner is in the expected spot of 2H, I am expecting it to make, and we are doubled. Life is good!

[SoTired]

XX for penalty is almost always a terrible bid. In this case, it would further confuse an already confusing auction.

At MP, if the opps have miscalculated, making 2HX is a top. If you are wrong because hearts are breaking 6-0 and several are also in 2HX, the XX turns a poor board into a zero. So you risk turning a poor board into a zero for no gain whatsoever.

At IMPS, you score +590 for 2HX making. If the opps are wrong, the XX gains 170. If you are wrong and 2HXX is down 2, the XX costs 300. So you risk turning -300 into -600 in order to turn +590 into +760. Again, this is a poor money decision.

[neilkaz]

kenrexford, on Jul 19 2006, 02:52 PM, said:

My suggestion to redouble was in jest. I merely meant to underline that I feel no need to make up for a prior weak action. This decision turned out pretty well. Partner is in the expected spot of 2H, I am expecting it to make, and we are doubled. Life is good!

No problem, Ken !! I also feel lucky that this hand has turned out as well as it did and rarely expect to be -2.

[Double !]

SoTired, on Jul 19 2006, 02:03 PM, said:

BTW, making a silly mistake is common. I have bid straight blackwood, got a one ace answer, added that one ace to my one ace, got three and bid slam. TWICE.

Well, did you make it (6?)?

DHL

[Joe de Balliol]

Yup, 2H made with no problems - I was just curious what people would do without a strong indication of a psyche [the 1♠ bid was phony] and therefore whether South had fielded it.

[Apollo81]

Joe de Balliol, on Jul 19 2006, 01:54 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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1H P P X
1S 1N X P
2H P P X
P P ???

EW are pickups, as are NS but they are both juniors and know each other to be juniors at heart in the auction.

J

Pass, obviously. How can one even consider doing anything else. Partner could easily be 4-6 majors, but since these are juniors you can't trust anyone to have their bids in HCP.

-junior

[Limey_p]

kenrexford, on Jul 19 2006, 03:52 PM, said:

Partner is in the expected spot of 2H, I am expecting it to make, and we are doubled. Life is good!

I agree. North's final pass seems clear. And I like north's double, too.

AP