[badderzboy]

Playing Acol 4 card majors...

Opps open 1C-1S-4S.

You hold

Scoring: MP

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What's your lead

Do it change given u are playing a 13 table moderate ability club night.

Does it change playing teams...

Steve

[HeartA]

How about ♦J?

[keylime]

I agree with Senshu - J of ♦ looks good.

[awm]

What exactly is appealing about the ♦J? It seems like this will often cause partner to go wrong when holding the ♦A, with the only compensation being that declarer may misguess if holding the ♦A, ♦K, and ♦T between the two hands. Even if this latter situation is the case, declarer can often set up the clubs or ruff a diamond and avoid any guess in the diamond suit entirely.

I'll stick with the routine ♦Q lead thanks.

[mikeh]

awm, on Jun 29 2006, 07:39 PM, said:

What exactly is appealing about the ♦J? It seems like this will often cause partner to go wrong when holding the ♦A, with the only compensation being that declarer may misguess if holding the ♦A, ♦K, and ♦T between the two hands. Even if this latter situation is the case, declarer can often set up the clubs or ruff a diamond and avoid any guess in the diamond suit entirely.

I'll stick with the routine ♦Q lead thanks.

100% agreement here

[pclayton]

Q♦ is pretty easy. Im leading a sequence through strength and I have an outside chance of a ruff.

J♦ is a partnership killer.

[Free]

♦Q seems obvious...

[FrancesHinden]

What mikeh said.
We have the death club holding and have to be aggressive. The most aggressive red suit lead is a diamond. leading the DJ instead of the systemic DQ would only work if the goal is to deceive declarer about the layout of the diamond suit: but we aren't trying to do that, we are trying to set up 4 tricks before he has 10 and partner needs to be in on the joke in order to do that successfully.

[hatchett]

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We have the death club holding and have to be aggressive. The most aggressive red suit lead is a diamond. leading the DJ instead of the systemic DQ would only work if the goal is to deceive declarer about the layout of the diamond suit: but we aren't trying to do that, we are trying to set up 4 tricks before he has 10 and partner needs to be in on the joke in order to do that successfully.

I would lead the DQ too, but note we are playing matchpoints so we don't know our trick target is 4.

[Walddk]

I see no reason not to lead a normal ♦Q.

Roland

[luke warm]

hatchett, on Jun 30 2006, 11:45 AM, said:

I would lead the DQ too, but note we are playing matchpoints so we don't know our trick target is 4.

based on opener's bidding, i can't imagine taking *more* than 4 tricks... i'd be very happy setting this

[FrancesHinden]

hatchett, on Jun 30 2006, 05:45 PM, said:

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We have the death club holding and have to be aggressive. The most aggressive red suit lead is a diamond. leading the DJ instead of the systemic DQ would only work if the goal is to deceive declarer about the layout of the diamond suit: but we aren't trying to do that, we are trying to set up 4 tricks before he has 10 and partner needs to be in on the joke in order to do that successfully.

I would lead the DQ too, but note we are playing matchpoints so we don't know our trick target is 4.

Well, you tend to get a good board for beating game at matchpoints as well.
But to rephrase: we still have a dreadful club holding, and at matchpoints our target is as many tricks as possible, so we still need to be aggressive.

[hatchett]

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Well, you tend to get a good board for beating game at matchpoints as well.
But to rephrase: we still have a dreadful club holding, and at matchpoints our target is as many tricks as possible, so we still need to be aggressive.

I would lead the ♦Q as well, but the point I was making, maybe poorly, was the deceptive J lead has more to commend it at matchpoints, for instance, it might be a +1 hand dependant on the diamond guess for a second overtrick, a big result at MPs but of little value at IMPs.