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>The other issue is that opening a strong two bid is nowhere nearly as useful today as it was 40 years ago when 2♠, 2♥ and 2♦ openers were strong as well.
I would say just the opposite. Its the ONLY forcing bid you have. Thus it is more valuable.
Is this a 2 Club opener in SAYC I don't think so
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Posted 2006-June-14, 06:17
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Posted 2006-June-14, 07:13
I think with the given hand I'd bid 3C, setting a GF, as opener rather than 3NT.
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Posted 2006-June-16, 22:35
I open 1♠ in standard. I can jump rebid no problem.
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Posted 2006-June-17, 09:18
IMO there is no right or wrong answers here - a lot has to do with opening style as well as responding style.
1S could work well when we can't make much of anything or when partner has enough to keep the bidding open but risks missing game when partner holds a couple of randon minor cards and a 3/4 card spade fit and is prevented from keeping the bidding alive.
2N could work out if partner has consolidation in the minors but pard will probably not raise unless he has a hand that would respond to 1S.
2C could work but could get the contract too high, especially if partner expects a better hand.
This is almost the exact hand type the Howard Schenken wrote about that is impossible to bid in standard and why he moved to a forcing club system.
The main point IMO for a solid partnership is to understand and accept the limitations of whatever system you adopt and accept the occassional bad result due to system failure with a shrug and without recriminations. No one guesses correctly all the time.
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1S could work well when we can't make much of anything or when partner has enough to keep the bidding open but risks missing game when partner holds a couple of randon minor cards and a 3/4 card spade fit and is prevented from keeping the bidding alive.
2N could work out if partner has consolidation in the minors but pard will probably not raise unless he has a hand that would respond to 1S.
2C could work but could get the contract too high, especially if partner expects a better hand.
This is almost the exact hand type the Howard Schenken wrote about that is impossible to bid in standard and why he moved to a forcing club system.
The main point IMO for a solid partnership is to understand and accept the limitations of whatever system you adopt and accept the occassional bad result due to system failure with a shrug and without recriminations. No one guesses correctly all the time.
Winston
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Posted 2006-June-29, 19:55
Make 1 red king an ace and then opening 2C becomes my bid as PD is more likely to pass when you can make game, but here 2C looks like too much for me. Even then, many would not open 2C. The hand given looks like 8ish tricks to me. Since I usually play Bergen raises, I can raise PD's 3S (4 trumps and no more than 5HCP) to game, but even without Bergen I just open 1S.
1S followed by a 3C GF jump shift is how to handle this hand in standard since you always return to spades. If PD has both missing aces, it shouldn't be too hard to end up in your likely slam.
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1S followed by a 3C GF jump shift is how to handle this hand in standard since you always return to spades. If PD has both missing aces, it shouldn't be too hard to end up in your likely slam.
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Posted 2006-June-30, 08:17
Clear 1S opener followed by 3C in a standard American system.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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