[eamongall]

Folks

I did not mean anything as offensive so I am sorry if I offended anybody. This hand has not cost me a thought all day but I can see the general view is that 3!H is enough on the hand so I am reeducated.

However we must always remember that the typed word is written by the writer in his/her mode of thought and feelings which is almost always quite opposite to the reader of the same words. Visual and tone inflections are totally missing in forums and email etc.

I also wondered if 2S was a correct bid in my comment as maybe this hand should be a middle of the road hand as opposed to strong or weak ..

A final point ... Bridge is actually a wargame so things do get hurt ..lets see wheres those smileys

Anyway its all the guys fault who opened 1S with the 7 count and over and out :)


Thanks
Eamon Galligan

[pclayton]

eamongall, on May 11 2006, 07:39 AM, said:

Folks

I did not mean anything as offensive so I am sorry if I offended anybody. This hand has not cost me a thought all day but I can see the general view is that 3!H is enough on the hand so I am reeducated.

However we must always remember that the typed word is written by the writer in his/her mode of thought and feelings which is almost always quite opposite to the reader of the same words. Visual and tone inflections are totally missing in forums and email etc.

I also wondered if 2S was a correct bid in my comment as maybe this hand should be a middle of the road hand as opposed to strong or weak ..

A final point ... Bridge is actually a wargame so things do get hurt ..lets see wheres those smileys

Anyway its all the guys fault who opened 1S with the 7 count and over and out :)


Thanks
Eamon Galligan

Yeah, but it was a great 7 count! ♠AKxxx ♥xx ♦xxxx ♣xx

My only comment is if you are upgrading that to a strong Michaels call (borderline), you owe Matt another call.

[han]

I agree with the consensus, which I think is that the hand is close between 3H directly and 2NT followed by 3H.

Like Phil, I don't think that bidding 2NT with the strong hand and then passing is a very good idea.

One more thing, I also had the 7-count and decided not to open 1S because of the colors (red vs white). I would have opened 1S at any other vulnerability.

[jdeegan]

mr1303, on May 11 2006, 04:13 AM, said:

But playing the weak or strong only version, both of those hands are in between and as a result would NOT use Michaels, and would make a simple overcall instead.

Interesting point, just where is the dividing line between overcalling and strong Michaels, AND how does the owner of a strong Michaels hand show his hand over 2NT?

I suppose the strong hand is shown by jumping in the minor. So, over 4♣ we bid a confident 4♥. Over 4♦ we also bid 4♥, but with less confidence. If we had bid 3♥ instead of 2NT, pard would raise to four.

Hmmm......, it looks like it makes little difference whether we bid 3♥ or 2NT. We play 3♥ opposite the minnie and 4♥ opposite the maxie. The only difference is that after 2NT we have the option of playing 3♦ or if pard bids 3♣ and I "correct" to 3♥, it must show extras.

Again, congrats to all for starting and adding to this thread.

[civill]

mikeh, on May 10 2006, 06:36 PM, said:

I will try 2N: if he bids 3♣, I bid game in ♥: he is red v white, forcing a passed hand to the 3-level: he should have a hand in which my 3 working cards and my 3rd trump come in handy. We may be cold or we may need some luck, but we should at least have a play.

I'll bid 2NT to indicate stoppers in ♠...

[Echognome]

civill, on May 12 2006, 05:45 AM, said:

mikeh, on May 10 2006, 06:36 PM, said:

I will try 2N: if he bids 3♣, I bid game in ♥: he is red v white, forcing a passed hand to the 3-level: he should have a hand in which my 3 working cards and my 3rd trump come in handy. We may be cold or we may need some luck, but we should at least have a play.

I'll bid 2NT to indicate stoppers in ♠...

Well, if I was allowed to make up agreements on the spot, I might bid 2NT to show a 5332 10 count. But I didn't think I could, so I tried to stick with what I thought was standard.