[Cascade]

Scoring: MP

1♣ 1♠
2♦ 3♠
3NT 4NT
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What now?

Would you have done anything differently in the earlier auction?

3♠ = GF with good spades.

4NT is quantitative (edited and added this)

[pbleighton]

Assuming 4NT is quantitative, 6NT (I bet I am missing something).

I would have bid 3C my second time, in spite of my spade void.

Peter

[Cascade]

Yes 4NT is quantitative

[mike777]

5NT now.

Agree with all the bidding, but it was tough and close for me.

[Blofeld]

Happy with the auction so far.

6♣ now. I've shown 5 cards there and I've got a great 6.

Second choice is to say that this isn't a slam force and bid 5♣.

[pclayton]

I expect some kind of 12-14 count and a 6322 or the like.

6♣ now. We might have a nice 7, if pard has a weak spade suit, but arent finding it.

[mikeh]

6♣

[han]

Also 6C for me, I can imagine many hands where this will play better than 6NT.

[Cascade]

pclayton, on Apr 24 2006, 03:59 PM, said:

I expect some kind of 12-14 count and a 6322 or the like.

6♣ now. We might have a nice 7, if pard has a weak spade suit, but arent finding it.

Maybe your reverses are stronger than mine.

I expect a little more than 12-14 especially if partner's spades are not solid or semi-solid and he can diagnose a misfit. Something like 14-16 would be what I expect.

[Flame]

5♣
my hand is initially above avarage for a reverse, but the spade void isnt good,
5♣ will tell partner i probebly dont have more then a singlton spade, and will help him evalualte his own hand. second close call is 6♣

[Free]

6♣, it's the right slam imo

[cherdano]

Free, on Apr 24 2006, 10:34 AM, said:

6♣, it's the right slam imo

I don't know about that, but partner will after I bid 6♣.

[Cascade]

Flame, on Apr 24 2006, 06:51 PM, said:

5♣
my hand is initially above avarage for a reverse, but the spade void isnt good,
5♣ will tell partner i probebly dont have more then a singlton spade, and will help him evalualte his own hand. second close call is 6♣

I think 3NT is unlikely to show more than one spade. With two spades I would normally raise to 4♠ and I would also raise with a singleton honour or in fact any singleton without a good alternative.

[whereagles]

It kinda depends on where pard has his honors, and my hand isn't fit to take a slam decision in this context. I'd prefer to have pard make the decision, but since he has bounced that back on me, I guess I'm gonna be pessimistic and bid 5♣ because the hints are there that this might be the limit (spade void opposite good suit, min reverse). Who knows, maybe 5♣ can get pard excited.

[inquiry]

cherdano, on Apr 24 2006, 04:25 AM, said:

Free, on Apr 24 2006, 10:34 AM, said:

6♣, it's the right slam imo

I don't know about that, but partner will after I bid 6♣.

6♣... partner who invites me to 6NT, and I choose 6♣ (not soliciting his opinion on best strain), better have a darn good reason not to accept my decision. Four diamonds to the KQ would be such a good reason. For him to decide to bid 6NT (because it is matchpoints) overruling my decision to avoid 6NT (I also know it is matchpoints when I elect to bid the slam in the minor) would require something extremely unusual in his hand... and from this auction, that something seems to be missing. And 6♠ of course is not biddable by him on this auction.

[Cascade]

inquiry, on Apr 25 2006, 01:38 AM, said:

cherdano, on Apr 24 2006, 04:25 AM, said:

Free, on Apr 24 2006, 10:34 AM, said:

6♣, it's the right slam imo

I don't know about that, but partner will after I bid 6♣.

6♣... partner who invites me to 6NT, and I choose 6♣ (not soliciting his opinion on best strain), better have a darn good reason not to accept my decision. Four diamonds to the KQ would be such a good reason. For him to decide to bid 6NT (because it is matchpoints) overruling my decision to avoid 6NT (I also know it is matchpoints when I elect to bid the slam in the minor) would require something extremely unusual in his hand... and from this auction, that something seems to be missing. And 6♠ of course is not biddable by him on this auction.

What sort of unusual would you expect? 6-4-3-0? 7-3-3-0? 7-3-2-1? Or would you expect some different bidding from partner with these hands.

In those extreme hands if the spades are solid partner might take some different action but if they have holes then he might invite with 4NT.

I view 6♣ in a slightly different way - a suggestion to play. I am accepting your invitation but some of my extra values are distributional and I have extra length in clubs. Actually maybe this is the same - partner will need a reason to pull.

[Cascade]

whereagles, on Apr 25 2006, 01:09 AM, said:

It kinda depends on where pard has his honors, and my hand isn't fit to take a slam decision in this context. I'd prefer to have pard make the decision, but since he has bounced that back on me, I guess I'm gonna be pessimistic and bid 5♣ because the hints are there that this might be the limit (spade void opposite good suit, min reverse). Who knows, maybe 5♣ can get pard excited.

Partner knows about your spade void. Well damn near knows. 3NT must be at most a singleton and some hands with a singleton would have to raise spades or take some other action. Partner may well already be being pessimistic based on the misfit.

Sure the spade void is bad but partner is hardly going to be surprised. Its a negative but not that great since partner is imagining a small singleton at best.

Our hearts are just neutral - one stopper nothing extra over what we have promised.

Our minors though are great. We have the 10 in both suits increasing the chances that either suit will run for extra tricks. The clubs in particular are odds on to play for six tricks opposite a small singleton.

[mike777]

Well I bid 5nt to kickback the decision to partner hopefully in addition to telling her a bit more information after whatever my previous bidding has shown?
I find all my bids very tough on this hand and can understand other choices.

[luis]

I would bid 6♣ now, looks healthy.

[luke warm]

6c sounds to me like a pass or correct to 6d bid... what do you do if he bids 6d now on a 7330 or 6331 hand? i like mike's 5nt, but even tho 6c suffers (imo) from the problem i stated, that would probably be my bid at the table