[kenrexford]

Scoring: MP

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After a 1♣ opening to your right, you bid whichever of 1♥/2♥/3♥/4♥ (or pass) seems appropriate. (BTW -- which is your choice at these colors???)

LHO then bids spades at the cheapest level possible, jumping to 2♠ as "intermediate" (8-11) if you simply overcall 1♥. Opener, if possible, raises to 4♠.

Now what?

[JohnnyH7]

3H then pass.

[mike777]

1) 1H
2) x over 4s for a club lead I hope.

[Codo]

Given the circumstances, a 7 HEart opening had worked best. I have an easy X of 7 Spade. At the table, I had bid 3 ♥, but without knowing, what will eb best.
At another day I had bid 1 or 4 HEart or pass.

After 3 Heart, a double of 4 Spade should be nice, even if most pards tend not to understand this.

[cherdano]

Sorry, but this poll does not make any sense. After 1♣-3♥-3♠-P-4♠, the situation is completely different than after 1♣-1♥-2♠-P-4♠.
In fact, that's why I bid 3♥, because then I am done with the hand.

[cherdano]

Codo, on Apr 24 2006, 11:40 AM, said:

After 3 Heart, a double of 4 Spade should be nice, even if most pards tend not to understand this.

So what does a double of 4♠ show in your opinion?

[whereagles]

With the info given, I bid 1♦ for the lead

Without any info I guess I'd bid 3♥, though not fully happy about it.

[Codo]

cherdano, on Apr 24 2006, 06:44 PM, said:

Codo, on Apr 24 2006, 11:40 AM, said:

After 3 Heart, a double of 4 Spade should be nice, even if most pards tend not to understand this.

So what does a double of 4♠ show in your opinion?

I agree, the double must be lead directing for clubs, but this works in the forum much better then at the table.

[P_Marlowe]

2H and Pass.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[inquiry]

Torn between 2♥ and 1♥. At matchpoints, I think I would try 2♥. I am finished after this, given the vulnerabilty.

[pclayton]

2♥; but this is the kind of hand where I might take another call if pard can dredge up a raise.

[whereagles]

pclayton, on Apr 24 2006, 02:57 PM, said:

2♥; but this is the kind of hand where I might take another call if pard can dredge up a raise.

Thinking about it.. this is probably the best way to deal with this hand. The 'further action' might be some lead-director in diams or clubs.

[jdeegan]

2♥ and Pass. The very idea of bidding again over 4♠ after a 2♥ overcall smacks of a loser's desperation mentality. No doubt it would have worked on this hand, else we wouldn't be seeing this so-called 'bidding problem'. Assuming that our side should have bid beyond 4♠, it strikes me that the blame, if any, likely falls on my partner, given that I bid 1 or 2 ♥ the first time. Bridge is a game of percentages, and one cannot expect to achieve the best possible result on every hand esp. when there is a competitive auction.

[kenrexford]

In practice, I doubled, expecting this to be cooperative, suggesting a great ability to handle (1) a club lead, (2) a 5H call, or (3) a 5D call. If partner passes, we take the first six tricks [club lead ruffed, heart back high, diamond switch through Kxxx on dummy, diamond #2, diamond ruff, club ruff]. Partner, instead, elected 5H, which made on a sympathized error from the opponents.

In reviewing the hand, a friend also said he would double if his partner was a "better player," but he elected to pass for a real poor result. Another semi-pro friend also claimed he would double.

I found this interesting because my double, at the time, was made because I was primarily curious as to whether it would work and was willing to risk the board for the bet. I am not sure whether the law of averages would support this action over the course of hundreds of deals.

[Echognome]

I'm still trying to figure out how several people suddenly play Lightner doubles at the game level and expect their partner to be playing the same.

You can play "action" doubles if you like, but I don't see why this greatly effects partner's lead other than his knowing you now have greater strength (than you actually have).

[Codo]

Actually, I wrote, that I like the Lightner idea, esp. in case like this one: With 2/3 or even with 4 HEart, you limited your hand. You normally will and must just sit and wait the later development in the bidding. You will "never" double. So, this double can and should show something significant, normally a void in dummies suit.
And I wrote, that I won`t use this bid, because pd tend to misunderstand.
But the idea is still great.

[FrancesHinden]

If you overcall 4H you have not limited your hand in anything like the same way, so many people play 4H and then double as simply showing extra values.

If I overcall 3H and double I still play this as 'action': saying "I didn't overcall more because I wasn't suitable the first time round, e.g. because I didn't have enough hearts and I had a 2-suiter, but now I want to bid over 4S unless you want to defend". It would tend to have a spade void.

But this is related to my 2-suited overcalls, where I don't have a bid to show hearts and diamonds over a 1C opening, so a 0652 is a not impossible shape on this auction.

I can't imagine an auction where I overcall 2H then double, though I think it will have to be a 2-suiter.