bidding goes
1 spade pass pass 3 diamonds
what do you expect the 3 diamond hand to consist of please
we play a bastardised version sayc, also brings me to my next question, should we stop saying sayc and announce 5 card majors and just post a cc? which we have
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opinions please
#2
Posted 2006-April-04, 03:10
Most people play that as showing something like a fair 6-card suit with intermediate strength (as in 12-15 or thereabouts).
#3
Posted 2006-April-04, 03:23
3D shows a min. opening hand with
a 6 card suit.
With kind regards
Marlowe
a 6 card suit.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#4
Posted 2006-April-04, 03:32
The auction 1♠ - pass - pass indicates that opener has very strong hand, or that partners only suit is ♠ too, so he can't show his true strength.
A short look into his hand should reveal to the bidder, which of these is more likely. If he holds a ♠ length his partner will be weak.
In most cases it will be a good idea to pass, so that your 20 unbalanced points with a little help from your partner will not make a full game. With a strong hand and a strong partner dbl might be a good idea.
Preemptive bidding makes no sence at all, because opps will miss game, if the hand is passed.
3♦ shown a hand with a lot of diamonds and it is very likely that it is short in ♠. This type of hand is a problem in 4th seat, because the 2nd seat partner now may be strong with ♠.
An inexperienced player might want to preempt now, but this is not a good idea.
I would expect a good and long ♦ suit 6+, perhaps a side entry. Intending to play 3NT, if partners ♠ and stopper are good enough.
A short look into his hand should reveal to the bidder, which of these is more likely. If he holds a ♠ length his partner will be weak.
In most cases it will be a good idea to pass, so that your 20 unbalanced points with a little help from your partner will not make a full game. With a strong hand and a strong partner dbl might be a good idea.
Preemptive bidding makes no sence at all, because opps will miss game, if the hand is passed.
3♦ shown a hand with a lot of diamonds and it is very likely that it is short in ♠. This type of hand is a problem in 4th seat, because the 2nd seat partner now may be strong with ♠.
An inexperienced player might want to preempt now, but this is not a good idea.
I would expect a good and long ♦ suit 6+, perhaps a side entry. Intending to play 3NT, if partners ♠ and stopper are good enough.
#5
Posted 2006-April-04, 08:46
Ditto this last comment. In my understanding, a jump to three of a minor in pass-out seat shows a hand suitable for a cashing-out 3NT. Maybe roughly xx-Ax-AQJxxx-QJx as a minimum?
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#7
Posted 2006-April-04, 10:41
luis, on Apr 4 2006, 04:38 PM, said:
12-15 with 6 diamonds. Standard.
Depends on where you live. I've seen 9-12 up to 13-16.
#8
Posted 2006-April-04, 13:17
whereagles, on Apr 4 2006, 04:41 PM, said:
luis, on Apr 4 2006, 04:38 PM, said:
12-15 with 6 diamonds. Standard.
Depends on where you live. I've seen 9-12 up to 13-16.
Yep but more or less the same idea.
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