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-VE free bids Is it the norm or not in sayc/2over1

#1 User is offline   andych 

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Posted 2006-April-06, 22:43

Let say you play in BBO ACBL with a pickup.

Let say your pd open 1, bidding goes 1, (1), 2 by you would be forcing 1 round and pd would take that?


More confusing,
1, (1), X, (Pass), 2, (Pass), 2,
Pd would understand you hold 5 times hearts, sth like 3514 with 8-10 points, and that 2 is non-forcing?
Yes I understand I should probably pass. But just so happen I would like to bid again with 2, would pd take that?

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Posted 2006-April-07, 05:48

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Let say your pd open 1♦, bidding goes 1♦, (1♠), 2♣ by you would be forcing 1 round and pd would take that?



Yes

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1♦, (1♠), X, (Pass), 2♦, (Pass), 2♥,
Pd would understand you hold 5 times hearts, sth like 3514 with 8-10 points, and that 2♥ is non-forcing?


I think 6-9 with 6 more typical.

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But just so happen I would like to bid again with 2♥, would pd take that?


Why not start with 2 over 1?
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Posted 2006-April-07, 08:44

To the best of my knowledge, negative free bids are not the norm in either SAYC or 2/1. New suit by responder is (almost) always forcing.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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Posted 2006-April-07, 23:33

hatchett, on Apr 7 2006, 11:48 AM, said:

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But just so happen I would like to bid again with 2♥, would pd take that?


Why not start with 2 over 1?

Thanks for response.
Thats my headache. 2 over 1 is forcing.
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Posted 2006-April-08, 13:58

A new suit by an unpassed hand in abcland is 100% forcing...if it can be passed then it is alertable.
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Posted 2006-April-09, 08:53

When making a pickup partnership people waste a lot of time for if michael's show 5-5, 4-5, if (1)-2 is nat, what strenght, do we play lebensohl or rubensohl, I remember someone telling me 3 codified rounds of bidding after a very specific sequencewich of course would never happen.

I ask about blackwood and 2 secuences:

1-(2)-2

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(1)-1NT-(ps)-2
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