[Walddk]

whereagles, on Mar 16 2006, 02:21 PM, said:

Walddk, on Mar 16 2006, 12:19 PM, said:

Excuse me, but allow me to say that you have not had a close look at your hand if you think this is a 2♣ overcall vulnerable facing a passed partner. You don't need to read or have read books to come to this conclusion. It's called common sense.

The trouble with common sense it that each person has his own common sense. You come from a time when 2-level overcalls promised the world. Things have changed; people have realized there are other priorities for a 2-level overcall, not just safety. In this case, there's a lot to be said for a 2♣ overcall. I could present my arguments, but, since you disagree, I won't bother you with it.

I guess we should just agree we disagree.

You seem to disagree with everybody who has posted in this thread, not just me. Regarding what has changed and not changed, maybe one would find this interesting:

I presented the hand to one of my assistants at the bridge centre. He is 28 years old and a Danish international.

"Here is your hand. MP, both vulnerable. Pass by partner, 1♦ to your right. What do you bid"?

"Pass. You can't be serious that anyone would bid anything else".

"Well, some might overcall 2♣", I added.

"Only if they are glue sniffers, period", was the reply and off he was.

I am not quite sure what he means by "glue sniffers", but I have a feeling. I will make sure to ask him next time he's around.

By the way, how do you know that I come from a time when 2-level bids promise a lot? Pure speculation on your part. You, on the other hand, seem to be the individual who prefers and enjoys being the boss at the table and mastermind at every opportunity. Poor partner(s) is all I can say.

Roland

[whereagles]

Roland, don't take this personally, but I find it rather ridiculous to go out and ask people what they'd do with in this or that situation for the sole purpose of proving a point. It's kinda like saying "I pass because experts A and B also pass".

As for your accusation of me being a masterminding hog, pure speculation on your part. I just happen to be someone who managed to realize that sometimes it isn't enough to "bid my hand". There are occasions when a player has to make decisions instead of passing the ball to pard, hoping he can "sort it out".

One has to have the courage to rise to one's responsibilities when the time comes. Failure to take charge is nr. 1 source of misunderstandings at table, and the reason people frequently argue after the play is over.

If you're still not convinced.. well, I can say this: I'd rather be a hog than a rabbit. If you see what I mean..

[Walddk]

This is the Beginner and Intermediate Bridge Discussion forum. I hope they will listen to what is said by the vast majority in this thread and not to a loner whose wish it is to hog the hand.

I think it's wrong and even dangerous to tell B/I's that 2♣ is a sensible option. I tend to agree with slothy when he, in another thread, claims that the most important invention in life is the pass card in the bidding box.

What a shame that they seem to have removed all of them from whereagles box.

Roland