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Posted 2006-March-14, 07:31

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After a strong club auction, you end up declaring 4♥ as South. East doubled the 1♣ opening.

West leads the ♣Q which you duck.
West leads the ♣J at trick two which you ruff.
You next lead a heart to K and both opponents follow small.
What now?
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Posted 2006-March-14, 07:40

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Not sure what the best line is at matchpoints, however.
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Posted 2006-March-14, 07:55

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Posted 2006-March-14, 08:08

I need more info. What is double over the strong 1♣?

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Posted 2006-March-14, 08:26

Walddk, on Mar 14 2006, 02:08 PM, said:

I need more info. What is double over the strong 1♣?

Roland

Clubs.
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Posted 2006-March-14, 08:51

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Posted 2006-March-14, 09:09

Hmmm, I think I discovered a danger here:

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Posted 2006-March-14, 10:27

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♠ to hand, cash 2nd top ♠, pitching a ♣. If rho ruffs with the J, I lose only the ♥ A.

If the ♠ hold, play a ♦ to the board and ruff the last ♣ with the ♥10. If overruffed with the J, dummy is high apart from the trump A.

If I win all these tricks, now my last trump towards dummy, making an overtrick if the A is on my left or the suit was 2-2 all along.

I think I am okay so long as RHO doesn't hold 7+♠ :)
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Posted 2006-March-14, 11:00

Not quite hidden. Don't forget to put a [/hidden] at the end :)
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Posted 2006-March-14, 11:03

Bear with mikeh folks. Getting it half right is not bad for a lawyer :D

At least he recovered when it came to the analysis of the hand because then he got it completely wrong :) . You give RHO a spade void and the contract still makes if you play a spade next.

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Posted 2006-March-14, 13:30

Walddk, on Mar 14 2006, 12:03 PM, said:

Bear with mikeh folks. Getting it half right is not bad for a lawyer  :D

At least he recovered when it came to the analysis of the hand because then he got it completely wrong  :) . You give RHO a spade void and the contract still makes if you play a spade next.

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Okay, so I didn't drink my coffee this morning before posting :D

But Roland, I think your critique of my post confused my use of RHO: I never suggested a problem if RHO has short (including void) ♠. I did mistakenly suggest a problem if LHO has short ♠, but on reflection, the contract is bullet proof so long as you lead ♠ after the first ♥ wins. Not matter who ruffs which ♠, I can pitch a ♣ and still ruff a 2nd ♣, losing only 1♣ and 2 trump:

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Posted 2006-March-14, 13:55

mikeh, on Mar 14 2006, 07:30 PM, said:

Okay, so I didn't drink my coffee this morning before posting B)

Always remember to take your medication :P :P :) :D :D ;)
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Posted 2006-March-14, 15:43

Hmm, maybe I'm missing something but I think you are cold if you leave the A-J♥ outstanding.

Seems I can just easily cash the ♦AKQ, then cross to the spade and take pitches off the J♦ and K♠.

Ruffing clubs seems to lead to complications.

I'm sure Matt had SOMETHING in mind here. <_<
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Posted 2006-March-15, 03:26

No hidden tricks Phil.

The key to the hand is that you can claim!

Leave the ♥AJ outstanding and cash the top diamonds.

OR

Cross to the spades if you want first and pitch a club, then cross in diamonds and ruff a club.

Either way you make at least ten tricks.

However, at the table, our unfortunate declarer decided to cross to hand with a spade and lead another trump up, which was not a success when LHO showed out. RHO was then able to draw declarer's last trump and trap declarer in dummy to lose two more club tricks. Quite sloppy play.

I showed the hand to one of the uni players who took the same line as the one at the table, so I thought it might be instructional.

Although, I'm not sure how many BILers actually answered. :)
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Posted 2006-March-15, 04:01

The trick is to manage to avoid self-inflicted damage :)
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