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#1 User is online   mike777 

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Posted 2006-March-10, 11:58

MP.

(1H)=2C=P=3C

What is the range of 3C?
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Posted 2006-March-10, 11:59

6-9ish. Adjust for number of trumps, distrubution, which high cards they are etc.
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Posted 2006-March-10, 14:38

For me goodish 6 to medium 10 unless I were playing (as I usually do) transfer advances: 2 would be a good raise to 3: say 9-10 and so 3 would be say good 5 to 8. One reason for transfer advances is to reduce the uncertainty arises from wide range raises, which are necessitated by the current trend to essentially unlimited overcalls
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Posted 2006-March-10, 16:16

mikeh, it is of course an illusion that transfer advances make any difference in this auction. Not playing transfer advances most would still play 2S as a good clubs raise, the only thing you have done is lowered the ranges a little bit. There is no reason not to do that when you don't play transfer advances.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-March-10, 16:24

my guess is that mikeh plays 2D as a cue (good hand with no convenient bid or an 11+ club raise), 2H as spades, 2S as a constructive raise (9-10) and raise as weak (5-8) in which case 3D would be used to show diamonds, in which case his scheme would make a difference.
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Posted 2006-March-11, 01:57

Hannie, on Mar 11 2006, 12:16 AM, said:

mikeh, it is of course an illusion that transfer advances make any difference in this auction. Not playing transfer advances most would still play 2S as a good clubs raise, the only thing you have done is lowered the ranges a little bit. There is no reason not to do that when you don't play transfer advances.

Of course you mean 2H = good club raise.
I am not sure this is what most people play. E.g. in BWS, new suit bids are non-forcing, so the cue-bid could be a strong single suited hand without support. In a way, the effect of transfer advances is to free up the bid showing good raises to do only that (because the transfers handle good and bad hands with the transferred suit).

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Posted 2006-March-11, 05:28

NV: 0-9 (and partner does not need an opening for 2C). Preemptive.
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Posted 2006-March-11, 15:44

I misread the problem, I thought the auction was (1S)-2C. My comment makes more sense in that context, while mikeh's comment makes more sense in the actual context. Sorry!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-March-11, 15:47

constructive, but limited by the failure
to bid 2H.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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