Style matters
#1
Posted 2006-March-10, 05:11
1.
♠ --
♥ ATxxx
♦ J9xx
♣ Axxx
You Pard
pass 1♠
??
Do you bid a semiforcing 1NT or put your eggs all in one basket with 2♥?
2.
♠ Ax
♥ KQJTxx
♦ x
♣ Axxx
You Pard
1♥ 1♠
??
Close between 2♥, 2♣ or 3♥. Which pick?
#3
Posted 2006-March-10, 06:31
2) 2C, describing my shape, partner will most
like bid again
2H => 3H, game trial (most of the time partner will have 2 cards,
and I will survive, if he holds only 1 card)
2S => 3S, game trial (2S should be a 6 carder)
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#4
Posted 2006-March-10, 06:55
2. 2♣. I have 2 suits. I am going to bid them both.
Roland
#5
Posted 2006-March-10, 07:05
2. 2♣, partner will stretch to not pass after this.
#6
Posted 2006-March-10, 07:06
I think anybody would expect that 2♣ on 2. can show this hand. It's more of a style question whether it can be made on, say, 2=6=2=3 hands.
#7
Posted 2006-March-10, 07:21
On 2 I will bid 2♥. I think my hearts are more a feature than my clubs and I have a minimumish opening.
#8
Posted 2006-March-10, 07:23
2♣ on 2 seems pretty straightforward. Describe your hand and all that.
#9
Posted 2006-March-10, 08:25
2C and 3H are both reasonable on 2, I prefer 3H because clubs is very unlikely to be the right strain and showing an ace-empty suit will sometimes hinder hand evaluation.
#10
Posted 2006-March-10, 08:37
1NT
#2:
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This has to be a joke. 2♣ is automatic.
Luis
#11 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-March-10, 09:03
2) 2C. Not so that I can play in clubs (the heart ten is big) but so that partner can evaluate better when I next bid 3H (if I get a chance).
#12
Posted 2006-March-10, 10:10
2. 2H is NOT an option. This hand is way, way too good. Its close between 3H (strong suit) and 2C planning on rebidding 3H next. I slightly prefer 3H despite the fact that the slower sequence will help partner's hand evaluation for game. I just really can't tolerate playing in 2C on this hand. But this decision is very close. -Think about what hands would pass 2C, many of those hands will probably play better in hearts than the hands that preferenced 2H. E.G even Kxxx x Qxxxx QJx produces a great game (CK on your left or clubs 3-3, a 68% game!).
#13
Posted 2006-March-10, 12:30
(1) I'd bid 1NT on this hand. The "ace-empty" structure in hearts and clubs makes me more willing to play the hand in spades if partner has six. You could construct a hand with the same shape and hcp though where I'd bid 2♥ as a passed hand (- KQJTx xxxx Kxxx). I should also note that the problems aren't necessarily over if partner rebids 2♣ over 1NT playing a 2/1 style -- your hand is rather good for a pass, but 2♥ probably won't show this hand then either and 3♣ is risky opposite a partner who often rebids clubs on three. In most of my regular partnerships 2♣ is either natural (guarantee 4+) or gazilli (4+♣ or various strong options), which reduces this problem. Playing some form of BART may also help here.
(2) Interestingly, Josh Sher is one of the few partners with whom I'd bid 2♣ on this hand. The reason is that he prefers to bid 2♣ on all balanced hands, which reduces the probability of 2♣ being passed from "unlikely" to "vanishingly small." Elianna and I have a specialized rebid for hands like this as part of our gazilli structure -- 2NT showing a hand worth a jump to 3♥ but including a side 4-card minor. When you've got a bid like this, may as well use it. In many of my other partnerships we open pretty light (and play strong club/diamond) so this hand is a dead max for 2♣ (which also guarantees four-plus clubs) and I wouldn't want to risk the passout. In this case it's 3♥ for me.
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#14 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-March-10, 12:44
awm, on Mar 10 2006, 01:30 PM, said:
(1) I'd bid 1NT on this hand. The "ace-empty" structure in hearts and clubs makes me more willing to play the hand in spades if partner has six. You could construct a hand with the same shape and hcp though where I'd bid 2♥ as a passed hand (- KQJTx xxxx Kxxx). I should also note that the problems aren't necessarily over if partner rebids 2♣ over 1NT playing a 2/1 style -- your hand is rather good for a pass, but 2♥ probably won't show this hand then either and 3♣ is risky opposite a partner who often rebids clubs on three. In most of my regular partnerships 2♣ is either natural (guarantee 4+) or gazilli (4+♣ or various strong options), which reduces this problem. Playing some form of BART may also help here.
We are a passed hand so 2/1 inferences don't apply. Partner's 2C opp a passed hand will either be extras or show 4+ clubs so 3C will be safe.
#15
Posted 2006-March-10, 13:17
awm, on Mar 10 2006, 01:30 PM, said:
(1) I'd bid 1NT on this hand. The "ace-empty" structure in hearts and clubs makes me more willing to play the hand in spades if partner has six. You could construct a hand with the same shape and hcp though where I'd bid 2♥ as a passed hand (- KQJTx xxxx Kxxx). I should also note that the problems aren't necessarily over if partner rebids 2♣ over 1NT playing a 2/1 style -- your hand is rather good for a pass, but 2♥ probably won't show this hand then either and 3♣ is risky opposite a partner who often rebids clubs on three. In most of my regular partnerships 2♣ is either natural (guarantee 4+) or gazilli (4+♣ or various strong options), which reduces this problem. Playing some form of BART may also help here.
(2) Interestingly, Josh Sher is one of the few partners with whom I'd bid 2♣ on this hand. The reason is that he prefers to bid 2♣ on all balanced hands, which reduces the probability of 2♣ being passed from "unlikely" to "vanishingly small." Elianna and I have a specialized rebid for hands like this as part of our gazilli structure -- 2NT showing a hand worth a jump to 3♥ but including a side 4-card minor. When you've got a bid like this, may as well use it. In many of my other partnerships we open pretty light (and play strong club/diamond) so this hand is a dead max for 2♣ (which also guarantees four-plus clubs) and I wouldn't want to risk the passout. In this case it's 3♥ for me.
This was 1H-1S-?
not 1H-forcing NT-?
Over 1H-1S, I rebid 1N with a balanced hand
#17
Posted 2006-March-10, 13:50
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Hmm...., I wish I could have opened and transferred the problem to pard instead
Anyway, it's 1N and hopefully pard will find something other than 2♠
#2:
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2♣ / 3♥ -- I will probably choose the former at the table.
Atul
#18
Posted 2006-March-10, 15:47
I'm very surprised to see that two of my more regular BBO partners think differently.
- hrothgar
#19 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-March-10, 15:52
#20
Posted 2006-March-10, 16:09
I thought that the mainstream method was to rebid 2H with a minimal 6-4, and to rebid 2m with significant extras. I recall Stewart presenting this as standard in his book "becoming an expert bridge player". I think this book is quite good although somewhat old-fashioned. (I'm travelling so I can't look it up, and I may even have the title wrong.)
Now, if we had only 3 clubs THEN it would be a mainstream BBF bid.
- hrothgar

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