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You hold:
Scoring: IMP
The bidding goes (starting on your right):
2♦* - pass - 2♠* - 3♦
3♥ - ...
2♦ = multi: weak in a Major or strong hands
2♠ = interest in ♥, to play when it's ♠
What do you bid now?
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Posted 2006-February-20, 05:50
Top competition of your country.
You hold:
The bidding goes (starting on your right):
2♦* - pass - 2♠* - 3♦
3♥ - ...
2♦ = multi: weak in a Major or strong hands
2♠ = interest in ♥, to play when it's ♠
What do you bid now?
*Will be continued*
You hold:
The bidding goes (starting on your right):
2♦* - pass - 2♠* - 3♦
3♥ - ...
2♦ = multi: weak in a Major or strong hands
2♠ = interest in ♥, to play when it's ♠
What do you bid now?
*Will be continued*
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Posted 2006-February-20, 05:51
Think I'd try 3NT.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 06:09
I think I'll pass this one.
1) I don't think my heart stop is good enough to bid 3NT. If partner hits with Jx too bad.
2) Partner is entitled to play me for around 7-8 HCP. Discounting the Q of hearts, I don't have anything more than that.
Partner is still there, if he has more than a minimum he can try again.
1) I don't think my heart stop is good enough to bid 3NT. If partner hits with Jx too bad.
2) Partner is entitled to play me for around 7-8 HCP. Discounting the Q of hearts, I don't have anything more than that.
Partner is still there, if he has more than a minimum he can try again.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 06:27
Easy 3NT. All I need is pard's 6 diamonds to the AK and the club king.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 06:51
Nasty hand
Give parter as little as Jx in Hearts and 3N will have good play
Give partner xx in Hearts and 3NT could be off the first 6 tricks
Regretfully, I think that this is going to be a guessing game.
I'm going to pass...
I'm not brave enough to try to find 5m. If partner is this strong, he'll take some other action. I expect that the opps have an 8 card heart fit with the Ace and the King.
By my calculations, they have 6 vacant spaces where the Jack of Hearts could fall. Partner only has two.
Give parter as little as Jx in Hearts and 3N will have good play
Give partner xx in Hearts and 3NT could be off the first 6 tricks
Regretfully, I think that this is going to be a guessing game.
I'm going to pass...
I'm not brave enough to try to find 5m. If partner is this strong, he'll take some other action. I expect that the opps have an 8 card heart fit with the Ace and the King.
By my calculations, they have 6 vacant spaces where the Jack of Hearts could fall. Partner only has two.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 07:00
I double. Not sure excactly what double means but this hand can't be off by many marks. I hope that first dbl and then 3NT over p's 3♠ shows a doubt about the hearts stops.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 07:03
I wont pass this for sure. Partner 3d isnt cheese. Hes definitely not bidding 7 of my pts.
I think i would X (show cards bal type)
if partner bid 3s ill bid 3nt showing d tol and unsure stoppers.
if he bid 4s ill bid 5d.
and over 4c or 4d ill pass.
5d or 5c could easily be the best game.
Partner could pass with extra value and 2 baby he knows i woulndt X with a stiff♥ hearts.
W vs R its far from sure they have a 9c H fit.
Ben
I think i would X (show cards bal type)
if partner bid 3s ill bid 3nt showing d tol and unsure stoppers.
if he bid 4s ill bid 5d.
and over 4c or 4d ill pass.
5d or 5c could easily be the best game.
Partner could pass with extra value and 2 baby he knows i woulndt X with a stiff♥ hearts.
W vs R its far from sure they have a 9c H fit.
Ben
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Posted 2006-February-20, 07:32
Hi,
I Pass.
You did not mentioned, that 2S is
an invitation to play 4H, did you
only forget to mention this?
Marlowe
I Pass.
You did not mentioned, that 2S is
an invitation to play 4H, did you
only forget to mention this?
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2006-February-20, 08:11
3NT. RHO is the one with 6 hearts, so xx opposite my Qxx is enough. No jack needed, they can't run the suit. Even if partner has a singleton, there is chance that we can block the suit.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 08:30
Walddk, on Feb 20 2006, 04:11 PM, said:
3NT. RHO is the one with 6 hearts, so xx opposite my Qxx is enough. No jack needed, they can't run the suit. Even if partner has a singleton, there is chance that we can block the suit.
Roland
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I agree. If RHO wins the lead with the ace, then underleads from AKxxxx, I will hand him over some ego points, but so be it.
This is a typical bad hand for multi, btw. If the bidding had started 2♥-3♥, partner couldn't show his diamonds without bypassing 3N.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 08:43
cherdano, on Feb 20 2006, 03:30 PM, said:
I agree. If RHO wins the lead with the ace, then underleads from AKxxxx, I will hand him over some ego points, but so be it.
We are safe every time hearts are 2-6. If RHO really has AKxxxx as suggested, playing the queen can't lose - not even if LHO, cunningly, has led low from Kx opposite AJ10xxx.
If RHO returns the jack, it is also safe to insert the queen.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 08:45
P_Marlowe, on Feb 20 2006, 02:32 PM, said:
Hi,
I Pass.
You did not mentioned, that 2S is
an invitation to play 4H, did you
only forget to mention this?
Marlowe
I Pass.
You did not mentioned, that 2S is
an invitation to play 4H, did you
only forget to mention this?
Marlowe
Not everyone plays a 2S response to the multi like that.
If you had a hand that would have passed a weak 2S but raised a weak 2H to 3H, you can also respond 2S.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 08:49
Walddk, on Feb 20 2006, 04:43 PM, said:
cherdano, on Feb 20 2006, 03:30 PM, said:
I agree. If RHO wins the lead with the ace, then underleads from AKxxxx, I will hand him over some ego points, but so be it.
We are safe every time hearts are 2-6. If RHO really has AKxxxx as suggested, playing the queen can't lose - not even if LHO, cunningly, has led low from Kx opposite AJ10xxx.
If RHO returns the jack, it is also safe to insert the queen.
Roland
Yes, but I was assuming heart 6331 around the table. I assume you were planning to play low in case it goes low heart lead to the ace, low return (trying to block the suit).
Arend
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Posted 2006-February-20, 08:56
cherdano, on Feb 20 2006, 03:49 PM, said:
Walddk, on Feb 20 2006, 04:43 PM, said:
cherdano, on Feb 20 2006, 03:30 PM, said:
I agree. If RHO wins the lead with the ace, then underleads from AKxxxx, I will hand him over some ego points, but so be it.
We are safe every time hearts are 2-6. If RHO really has AKxxxx as suggested, playing the queen can't lose - not even if LHO, cunningly, has led low from Kx opposite AJ10xxx.
If RHO returns the jack, it is also safe to insert the queen.
Roland
Yes, but I was assuming heart 6331 around the table. I assume you were planning to play low in case it goes low heart lead to the ace, low return (trying to block the suit).
Arend
OK, then you are on a guess. This will depend on who my RHO is. Some partnerships have the (strange) agreement that you must lead highest in partner's suit from 3, even 3 to an honour. I never understood that concept.
If hearts really are 6331, it would obviously be a disaster to lead the king or ace from Kxx and Axx.
Roland
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Posted 2006-February-20, 08:58
FrancesHinden, on Feb 20 2006, 03:45 PM, said:
P_Marlowe, on Feb 20 2006, 02:32 PM, said:
Hi,
I Pass.
You did not mentioned, that 2S is
an invitation to play 4H, did you
only forget to mention this?
Marlowe
I Pass.
You did not mentioned, that 2S is
an invitation to play 4H, did you
only forget to mention this?
Marlowe
Not everyone plays a 2S response to the multi like that.
If you had a hand that would have passed a weak 2S but raised a weak 2H to 3H, you can also respond 2S.
I don't really understand what you (Marlowe) mean here. I said "2♠ is interest in ♥, to play with ♠". So it's basicly like Frances says: he would've passed after a natural 2♠ opening, and would've raised or invited game after natural a 2♥ opening. I don't care what anyone plays except my opponents on this board
. They play it this way, and you can trust their bids! 
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Posted 2006-February-20, 10:12
Where are the ♠? Responder shouldn't have more than 2, partner no more than 4, I have 3 so OPENER should have 4 of those, yuck!
♥: Partner should have a singleton for opps bidding, and opps have 6 - 3.
It seems that 3NT might be troublesome to say the least, if he has:
KJxx
x
AKJxxx
xx
the best we can do now is to pass.
♥: Partner should have a singleton for opps bidding, and opps have 6 - 3.
It seems that 3NT might be troublesome to say the least, if he has:
KJxx
x
AKJxxx
xx
the best we can do now is to pass.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 10:38
Free, on Feb 20 2006, 09:58 AM, said:
FrancesHinden, on Feb 20 2006, 03:45 PM, said:
P_Marlowe, on Feb 20 2006, 02:32 PM, said:
Hi,
I Pass.
You did not mentioned, that 2S is
an invitation to play 4H, did you
only forget to mention this?
Marlowe
I Pass.
You did not mentioned, that 2S is
an invitation to play 4H, did you
only forget to mention this?
Marlowe
Not everyone plays a 2S response to the multi like that.
If you had a hand that would have passed a weak 2S but raised a weak 2H to 3H, you can also respond 2S.
I don't really understand what you (Marlowe) mean here. I said "2♠ is interest in ♥, to play with ♠". So it's basicly like Frances says: he would've passed after a natural 2♠ opening, and would've raised or invited game after natural a 2♥ opening. I don't care what anyone plays except my opponents on this board
. They play it this way, and you can trust their bids! Hi,
I understand that not everyone plays my way.
I just wanted to make sure, that 2S is in esence
a "preemptive" heart raise to 3H.
And according to your words, it is not even clear,
that the raise to 3H is preemtive, it may still be
invitational, ... which is a difference.
With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2006-February-20, 10:44
Pass.
1) 6 ♥ headed by AK are not enough for 9 tricks in notrump.
2) 3NT can cost a lot if partner is minimum (he never said he was maximum, but used the 2!s bid to pursue the pre-empt).
3) 3NT, as a save or psych, should not even work since 2!s is non forcing (2NT shows 14+) and the opponents are aware that we have a maximum of 23 Hcp.
1) 6 ♥ headed by AK are not enough for 9 tricks in notrump.
2) 3NT can cost a lot if partner is minimum (he never said he was maximum, but used the 2!s bid to pursue the pre-empt).
3) 3NT, as a save or psych, should not even work since 2!s is non forcing (2NT shows 14+) and the opponents are aware that we have a maximum of 23 Hcp.
Sylvain
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Posted 2006-February-20, 10:49
Gerben42, on Feb 20 2006, 04:12 PM, said:
It seems that 3NT might be troublesome to say the least, if he has:
KJxx
x
AKJxxx
xx
KJxx
x
AKJxxx
xx
Pard probably doesn't hold that hand, since he might have passed 2♠, intending to double 3♥ for take-out later.
I agree 3NT might be a disaster if pard doesn't have the right cards, or if diamonds misbehave. But the point is you have no way to know whether 3NT makes or not. And in doubt... bid game.
One thing is certain, if you pass, you run a serious risk of ending up defending 3♥. Does that sound like a good score to you? I don't think so. But then again, I've been proven wrong before. On occasion
Still, even if pard has extras and doubles 3♥, you'll have another headache deciding to whether to pass or bid.
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Posted 2006-February-20, 11:14
Ok, so apparently most people bid 3NT. Now partner bids 4♠. What now?
2♦* - pass - 2♠* - 3♦
3♥ - 3NT - pass - 4♠
pass - ...
2♦* - pass - 2♠* - 3♦
3♥ - 3NT - pass - 4♠
pass - ...
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