[Miron]

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1♣ - p - 1♦ - 1♥
p - ?

What will be your bid?

[luis]

1♠, by Luis' rule 1♠ is never wrong, in any hand. So 1♠.

[awm]

Well, this hand is pretty bad, but it's easy to imagine spades playing multiple tricks better than hearts. I am not sure how this hand will take any tricks in 1♥!

If I'm sure partner will take 2♠ as weak I'd bid that, but in my partnerships 2♠ is fit-showing, and if I'm not sure how partner will take it I wouldn't take the risk. 1♠ for me.

[han]

I think that 1S is absolutely clear at MPs, but I would also bid it at IMPs.

[pbleighton]

1S.

I would have bid 2S in the first round if not vulnerable.

Peter

[mike777]

1s

[Miron]

Are you not afraid that partner will think that you're bit stronger? What if he bids further (f.e. 2♥)?

[han]

If he bids 2H then I pass, wtp.

If he raises spades then I'm happy.

Partner won't play me for a strong hand, he knows that I have 5+ spades and didn't overcall last round. He may expect a few more HCP, but the hope is that we get to play in spades where we have compensating values.

[luis]

Miron, on Feb 23 2006, 07:20 PM, said:

Are you not afraid that partner will think that you're bit stronger? What if he bids further (f.e. 2♥)?

1♠ never promises anything it barely promises some spades.

Luis

[pclayton]

Conditions and vulnerability do matter here. I might have found a 2♠ call the previous round.

I PASSED over 1♣. Initially, I thought I'd pass over 1♥ but how much worse can my hand be? I'd say this was a 'middlish' hand for a 1♠ call.

I'll open up the discussion for those that pass and think that 1♠ now should show: Jxxxx, xx, AQx, Kxx.

[pbleighton]

"1♠ never promises anything it barely promises some spades."

Especially after you passed the first time.

Peter

[Free]

I'm a true believer of Luis' rule I bid 1♠. Since I passed before, partner will know I don't have much so no danger of heavy jumping without values

[adhoc3]

pbleighton, on Feb 23 2006, 02:09 PM, said:

1S.

I would have bid 2S in the first round if not vulnerable.

Peter

Ditto.

Since I passed before, and I will have no bid if pard rebid anything after 1H-1S, I will pass now. 2S here will be fit showing jump even without pre-agreement.

If the bidding is not ending on 1H, maybe I can try 2S later.

Regards,

Jack

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I will pass, assuming the vul.
is green vs. red I would have bid
2S the round before.

Marlowe

[Codo]

To the bidders:
How often do you gain with this auction- in finding a better part score- and how often do you get too high?

What are your bids for a lot of hands with much more HCPS, you had not been able to bid with in the first round? Always a Cuebid?
What about Kxxxx,xx,xxx, AQx? Pass, 1 NT?


How often do you expect to hold a hand, which is too weak for a weak two but strong enough to introduce your suit now?
As much as I would like to play spades with this hand, I had no sufficient answers for my questions, so I had passed and bid 1 Spade, after 1 Heart gets doubled around to me.

[HeartA]

pass. It is not over yet. If 1H gets dbled and passed to me, I would bid 1S.

[Echognome]

I'm a 1♠ bidder as well. I would have overcalled 1♠ or 2♠ at MPs depending on who my partner was.

Partner knows we aren't promising tolerance by bidding 1♠. Also I can't bid 2♠ as partner will likely take that to be a fit jump. If it goes P - 2♥ - P, then I will bid 2♠. My hand does not play well in any other denomination. On any other sequence (like opps bidding again) I will pass throughout.