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Posted 2006-February-03, 00:29

Free, on Feb 2 2006, 03:08 PM, said:

There are 4 seats, and 4 Vulnerabilities. This makes 16 combinations. 2nd seat V vs NV isn't the same as 1st seat V vs NV. In the first situation I don't want to open a strong 1♣ since my LHO has carte blanche to preempt :lol:

No....but 3rd seat V vs NV is the same as 1st seat V vs NV. You can't play a different system just because the first two people have passed. :)
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Posted 2006-February-03, 03:50

DrTodd13, on Feb 3 2006, 07:29 AM, said:

Free, on Feb 2 2006, 03:08 PM, said:

There are 4 seats, and 4 Vulnerabilities.  This makes 16 combinations.  2nd seat V vs NV isn't the same as 1st seat V vs NV.  In the first situation I don't want to open a strong 1♣ since my LHO has carte blanche to preempt  ;)

No....but 3rd seat V vs NV is the same as 1st seat V vs NV. You can't play a different system just because the first two people have passed. :)

HUH??? :blink: Anything I play with Toothbrush in 3rd seat is different from 1st seat, just because partner passed already! If you play strong pass, THEN you can't play another system obviously ;) but otherwise 3rd seat is nowhere near to 1st seat. Have you seen on what garbage people open in 3rd?
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Posted 2006-February-03, 07:24

Two new definitions of the 2♦-opening that I encountered recently in f2f tourneys:

- Undefined: When I asked opps what 2♦ means in their system they said the opening did not exist because they couldn't agree what it should mean.
- Molto: "Basically multi but don't take it too serious". Because some TDs say that you can't psyche or otherwise "abuse" multi and Muiderberg, the solution is to give the conventions some other names.

And then there's Jammer, of course.
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Posted 2006-February-06, 10:38

Free, on Feb 3 2006, 04:50 AM, said:

DrTodd13, on Feb 3 2006, 07:29 AM, said:

Free, on Feb 2 2006, 03:08 PM, said:

There are 4 seats, and 4 Vulnerabilities.  This makes 16 combinations.  2nd seat V vs NV isn't the same as 1st seat V vs NV.  In the first situation I don't want to open a strong 1♣ since my LHO has carte blanche to preempt  ;)

No....but 3rd seat V vs NV is the same as 1st seat V vs NV. You can't play a different system just because the first two people have passed. :)

HUH??? :blink: Anything I play with Toothbrush in 3rd seat is different from 1st seat, just because partner passed already! If you play strong pass, THEN you can't play another system obviously ;) but otherwise 3rd seat is nowhere near to 1st seat. Have you seen on what garbage people open in 3rd?

A system belongs to a partnership, not an individual player -- you have to play the same system as your partner. So if you're in 3rd seat, he's in 1st, so you have to play the 1st seat system.

However, the definition of that system can include variations based on seat -- light openings opposite a passed partner, different NT ranges, Drury, etc.

But I suppose you can also consider the entire arrangement of the 16 systems to be your partnership's system. After all, a system is just a collection of agreements, it can be practially as complicated as you want.
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