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Tournament Tribulations #2 Who has what?

#1 User is offline   Winstonm 

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Posted 2006-January-15, 20:16

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West opens 3S in first seat and it is passed to you. Now what?

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Posted 2006-January-16, 05:19

Yuck...

I rate this pretty close between pass and 4♣ (Doubling or bidding 4♥ is far too likely to land me in the wrong strain). 4♣ will often get us overboard, but I'm not exactly expecting to get rich defending 3♠ undoubled!
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Posted 2006-January-16, 09:56

Would never pass in passout seat with this hand. 4C for me, just bidding my strongest/longest suit. 4H is a home run swing, it will be huge or a big strikeout.
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Posted 2006-January-16, 10:43

At NV vs V, 4C stands out. If pard has some H cards then you are making.
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Posted 2006-January-16, 11:47

4♣: several ways to win, compared to few ways to lose.

Double is horrible: can't stand a pass and can't stand a pull to anything

Pass is wimpish: I could be on for any one of 3 games, altho 1 of those is unbiddable (3N: I can't get there from here)

4♥ is placing too many eggs in too frail a basket

4♣ may win by getting us to 5♣, or by being a better contract that defending 3♠ or, and this is a possibility rather than a probability, by getting us to 4♥. It is unlikely that partner will introduce ♥, but he may mention the other red suit , and now 4♥ might get us to a 9 card fit (he will think it is an 8 card fit)
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Posted 2006-January-16, 11:50

What Mikeh says.
4H if a long way down in the match and needing to swing.
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Posted 2006-January-16, 12:49

Me too.

I wonder if anybody would bid 4C in direct seat. I would think not.
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Posted 2006-January-16, 13:31

Hannie, on Jan 16 2006, 01:49 PM, said:

I wonder if anybody would bid 4C in direct seat. I would think not.

Only if I got a peek at LHO's hand.... :o
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Posted 2006-January-16, 14:24

I would bid 4♥
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Posted 2006-January-16, 18:56

4♣, for me
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Posted 2006-January-17, 03:09



Pard elected to pass thinking that down 3 or 4 wouldn't lose much, 3n may not be a make, and something magic might happen. When it came to me, I debated 4C but knowing how aggressive my opponents were it seemed likely that partner held length in spades and some kind of hand - so whether table feel or what, I backed my judgement and doubled, feeling that if partner bid 4D I could bid 4H to show the 2-suiter. More than anything this seemed more a matter of feel, as there was some kind of nervous tension in the air that said double was the winning call - can't say if this was blind luck or just backing up table feel, but it is a good feeling when you go with your gut instinct against reason and it turns out right.

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Posted 2006-January-18, 03:21

4♣. Regardless of it being natural or some two-suited hand :)

By the way, you had an easy 3NT overcall there, Winston :rolleyes:
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Posted 2006-January-18, 08:42

Fluffy, on Jan 16 2006, 10:24 PM, said:

I would bid 4♥

You still play too much MP? :))
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Posted 2006-January-18, 08:55

4♣ for me. Should show 2-suiter but would also bid it if it doesn't.
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Posted 2006-January-18, 09:02

Gerben42, on Jan 18 2006, 09:55 AM, said:

4♣ for me. Should show 2-suiter...

Why?
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Posted 2006-January-18, 09:10

Jlall, on Jan 18 2006, 03:02 PM, said:

Gerben42, on Jan 18 2006, 09:55 AM, said:

4♣ for me. Should show 2-suiter...

Why?

Because he thinks it is more useful than having a natural club bid... Club single suiters then have to choose between pass, double and 3NT. I think I prefer 4C as nat in direct seat and 2 suited in passout seat (because 3NT without a stop is less likely to be wrong-sided) but I play it as natural throughout in all of my partnerships.
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