8 cards suit
#1
Posted 2006-January-15, 03:24
KQx
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xx
AQTxxxxx
Your pd opened 1S, you repond with 2C, Pard 2H, now what you gonna do?
#2
Posted 2006-January-15, 03:30
I cannot make a stronger bid, could be grand slam try.
#3
Posted 2006-January-15, 03:34
#4
Posted 2006-January-15, 04:05
1S---2C
2H---2S
4S---?
Now what?
If:
1S---2C
2H---2S
3C---?
#6
Posted 2006-January-15, 07:54
adhoc3, on Jan 15 2006, 11:05 AM, said:
1S---2C
2H---2S
4S---?
Now what?
If:
1S---2C
2H---2S
3C---?
Still depends on the system. The first auction would never occur for me, since 4♠ is a ridiculous bid. Either start with 4th suit and use serious NT, or start cuebidding.
Second auction makes things easy, since partner shows a tophonour in our suit, which is the K. We only need to find a control ♦, so just bid 3NT. With a ♦ control, p will bid 4♦.
#7
Posted 2006-January-15, 08:52
Blofeld, on Jan 15 2006, 03:29 PM, said:
Maybe we should see a doc, or start anonymous 8-card suit rebidders.
#8
Posted 2006-January-15, 11:22
If I rebid 2♠ then 4♠ shows a dead minimum, I have a legitimate worry about hands like: ♠AJxxx ♥AQxx ♦xxx ♣x.
Whats curious about this hand is that 6♣ is a fair spot, but make it a 5=4=4=0 and 6♣ has zero play. 5♣ is better than 4♠ too.
So I'll just pass 4♠.
I wonder what will happen if I rebid my 8-bagger?
#9
Posted 2006-January-15, 17:14
Free, on Jan 15 2006, 11:34 AM, said:
in SAYC:
1♠-2♣
2♥-3♠
What does this show in SAYC? I thought it swows good ♣ suit, ♠ fit and interessed in slem. Or is that not standard?
#10
Posted 2006-January-15, 19:34
2H---2S
4S---//
This sequence is out. A little bit better that what the opps have bid at my table:
1S---2C
2H---4S//
Depend on styles, the 3rd stage of the bidding:
1S---2C
2H---2S
3C---3NT(serious)
4D---??
1S---2C
2H---3C
3NT---??
You dont have voidwood available.
#11
Posted 2006-January-15, 19:41
Free, on Jan 15 2006, 08:54 AM, said:
Second auction makes things easy, since partner shows a tophonour in our suit, which is the K. We only need to find a control ♦, so just bid 3NT. With a ♦ control, p will bid 4♦.
never say never.
what do you suggest opener to bid with ♠AJxxx, ♥KQxx, ♦Qxx, ♣J?
#13
Posted 2006-January-16, 19:27
Fluffy, on Jan 16 2006, 03:27 PM, said:
Here's the Key.
There's no hope for spade contract, but 7C is stone. The declarer was so hopeless when he found spade break 1-4. A beautiful 8 cards suit become wastage, 4 spade went down.
Interesting I had a very similar hand myself yesterday when planing at lobby:
♠Axx
♥AT9xxxxx
♦K
♣x
Pard opened 1S too:
1S-----2H
3C-----3S
pass.....ooops......arent we play 2/1?
"SAYC."
What's your plan if you were I?
#14 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-January-16, 21:35
#15
Posted 2006-January-18, 03:43
As always, when one need to tread one's path carefully, staying low is the best option. I would start with rebidding 2 or 3♠, whichever is the forcing bid in your system.
Obviously, if pard is random, I might just shoot at 6♠ 2nd round
#16
Posted 2006-January-18, 06:59
Jlall, on Jan 16 2006, 10:35 PM, said:
Right, but how is he going to let West know about this?
It seems (to my naive viewpoint) that there's a significant danger into being endplayed into a spade contract if you bid 2♠ at your second chance.
#17
Posted 2006-January-18, 07:09
Arend
#18 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2006-January-18, 09:02
Blofeld, on Jan 18 2006, 07:59 AM, said:
It seems (to my naive viewpoint) that there's a significant danger into being endplayed into a spade contract if you bid 2♠ at your second chance.
Well for starters he will jump to 4C (not gerber
I never feel endplayed into playing a certain suit when my partner knows my whole shape. If he at some points bids a slam in a suit he's already bid naturally I will almost always pass (depending on suit quality).

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1S----2C
2H----4S//