Discussed this hand with Justin yesterday after the BBO Juniors. The opps are silent. You open 1♥ and pard bids a forcing NT. Your rebid?
Decent 6-4
#1
Posted 2006-January-11, 08:51
Discussed this hand with Justin yesterday after the BBO Juniors. The opps are silent. You open 1♥ and pard bids a forcing NT. Your rebid?
#2
Posted 2006-January-11, 09:02
pclayton, on Jan 11 2006, 09:51 AM, said:
Discussed this hand with Justin yesterday after the BBO Juniors. The opps are silent. You open 1♥ and pard bids a forcing NT. Your rebid?
2h wtp
Minimum hand what's the problem? 14 hcp, 6 card suit, 3QT, unbalanced hand, can hardly have less.
#3
Posted 2006-January-11, 09:02
It depends what 1NT could be. I have a nice shape with only 5 losers, so the final destination seems to be 4♥. If partner's hand is limited, then I could well bid them right away, so 4♥ is my second choice, but we'll lose the chance of finding a ♦ slam.
#4
Posted 2006-January-11, 09:07
2H. Not quite good enough for 3. 2D is out - hearts is where I live.
There are days I would bid 3, but I'm having the other kind of day
Peter
#5
Posted 2006-January-11, 09:19
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But where does partner live?
I bid 2♦ and raise a 2♥ rebid from partner to 3.
#6
Posted 2006-January-11, 09:31
I raise 2♥ rebid to 3♥
Alain
#7
Posted 2006-January-11, 12:11
I don't think it's relevant that 2♦ is less likely to be passed. The only question to consider is whether we're strong enough to raise to 3♥ after 1♥:1NT,2♦:2♥. If not then we should rebid 2♥ rather than 2♦.
#8
Posted 2006-January-11, 12:27
mike777, on Jan 11 2006, 05:02 PM, said:
pclayton, on Jan 11 2006, 09:51 AM, said:
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Discussed this hand with Justin yesterday after the BBO Juniors. The opps are silent. You open 1♥ and pard bids a forcing NT. Your rebid?
2h wtp
Minimum hand what's the problem? 14 hcp, 6 card suit, 3QT, unbalanced hand, can hardly have less.
It depends on your opening style, of course. I would definitely open 1♥ if the ♥K were a small one. I would open ♠x ♥KJTxxx ♦QTxx ♣Ax with many partners. So I can't rebid 2♥ with an ace more, and would follow the Gerben-plan (2♦ then 3♥). I expect partner to move to 2♥ with most hands that have 2-4 in the red suits.
Arend
#9
Posted 2006-January-11, 12:43
#10
Posted 2006-January-11, 13:04
Playing what I play, I would rebid 2♣ (riton 2♣) showing a variety of possible good hands, the expected reply (but not forced) by partner is 2♦. I will then rebid 2♥ to show this hand. If partner instead rebids 2♥ over 2♣ I will pass.
Not playing Riton 2♣ (as in this case), I will follow the advice of malucy in this forum and rebid 2♦ which is almost never passed (and if it is passed here, it is likely to be right). To see mike's discussion of rebidding over forcing 1NT, check out these old links.
6 card Majors after 1NT forcing?
Requirements for Rebids After (1M-1N)
BTW, it is good to see malucy back on the BBO... .maybe he will come back here too.... :-)
Ben
#12
Posted 2006-January-11, 13:35
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#13
Posted 2006-January-11, 14:13
joker_gib, on Jan 11 2006, 10:31 AM, said:
I raise 2♥ rebid to 3♥
count me in on raising the H pref. to 3 to invite
#14
Posted 2006-January-11, 14:42
cherdano, on Jan 11 2006, 01:27 PM, said:
mike777, on Jan 11 2006, 05:02 PM, said:
pclayton, on Jan 11 2006, 09:51 AM, said:
<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> None </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> x </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> AKJTxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> Qxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> Ax </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->
Discussed this hand with Justin yesterday after the BBO Juniors. The opps are silent. You open 1♥ and pard bids a forcing NT. Your rebid?
2h wtp
Minimum hand what's the problem? 14 hcp, 6 card suit, 3QT, unbalanced hand, can hardly have less.
It depends on your opening style, of course. I would definitely open 1♥ if the ♥K were a small one. I would open ♠x ♥KJTxxx ♦QTxx ♣Ax with many partners. So I can't rebid 2♥ with an ace more, and would follow the Gerben-plan (2♦ then 3♥). I expect partner to move to 2♥ with most hands that have 2-4 in the red suits.
Arend
typical nv weak 2h opener
Will let the expert players who play the hands better open 1h.
#15
Posted 2006-January-11, 15:16
#16
Posted 2006-January-11, 15:32
I gave this hand to Chris Larsen a few minutes ago and it was an automatic 3♥ call for him.
He would rather "die" than bid 2♦ on a hand like this. His exact words.
#17
Posted 2006-January-11, 15:37
This, of course, requires agreements and discussion. The idea (especially at IMP's) is that 2C is semi-forcing and semi-artificial. Especially here (1+). True, 2D shows 4+, which I have, but I want to use 2C as a temporizing bid, to allow me to do something neat later.
If partner bids 2D next, I jump to 3H, which should show (if you assume my premise) a sort of fit-showing jump. Partner may expect 1633, which is fine.
If partner bids 2H, I dilike my diamonds now. However, this is an odd development, with no 1S response. Hence, I know partner to probably not have three spades with values there (he should lie on weakish hands). So, I expect a "fit" with clubs, strangely useful opposite my nice doubleton and expected diamond problem. So, I raise/invite.
If partner bid 2S (great club support), this is trouble. I suppose I will then bid 3NT and cross my fingers.
-P.J. Painter.
#19
Posted 2006-January-11, 15:59
Look how happy I will be if partner bids 2S over 2D, I may find a slam and will definetly play a game.
#20
Posted 2006-January-12, 12:02
mcphee, on Jan 11 2006, 04:59 PM, said:
Look how happy I will be if partner bids 2S over 2D, I may find a slam and will definetly play a game.
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