[Chamaco]

In this situation i sure see that pass has a lot of appeal.

However, when I do have a fit, I like to anticipate opps and deliver it to pard ASAP.
And of course, we all know that too huge a fit diminishes our defensive potential.

I might consider pass if I could hope 1S X would be the final contract, but I doubt it, so I prefer to communicate the fit.

There is a huge number of potential auctions where if I bid diamonds later after an initial pass, it will be unclear to pard that I was trying to trap pass.

So, I am a simple soul, I support immediately with 4 card support, I have seen too many trap-pass tries that ended up only confusing pard.

[Al_U_Card]

I will hope that I didn't hesitate too long before my pass hit the table. When pard rebids 2C I will likely bid 2NT because 3D will never get us to 3NT when it is right. After a 3C continuation to my 2NT bid, I will try 4D to invite that game.....

[mcphee]

I would not pass, I raise D. Who cares if partner has 3, he may have 7 for all I know and we may have a D slam. I would not want to make a stronger raise of D even though I think this is a good supporting hand, if I raise D now with the extras I have a am very well placed on the next round of bidding. Passing in hope of defending S at the one level for penalty vul versus not is not going to make me rich.

I just feel that if my partner bids again over 2D we have a game for sure and 600+ looks a lot better to me than 300. The D length is not a feature for me defending really. If I was declarer with his crappy S there is nothing more that I would like to make my little trumps via ruffing.

Put me down is Dumbo, I think to raise is a no brainer.

[Al_U_Card]

You have a nice 9 count. Pard has opening hand values. RHO has a spade overcall at imps (so the A and likely the Q of S) LHO can have up to an opening bid (especially nowadays) but he can't have a game going hand, particularly in spades......Premature bidding is to be avoided (support with support only applies when it is true support and there is no alternately superior option) especially if passing and then showing your hand is much more likely to transmit an accurate picture to pard, then that is the way to go.

Your options on this board depend a lot on how the cards lie so don't take options away from pard and don't worry about the opps doing something you won't like because you have the balance of power and the boss suit.

[Kalvan14]

Al_U_Card, on Jan 9 2006, 11:41 AM, said:

I will hope that I didn't hesitate too long before my pass hit the table. When pard rebids 2C I will likely bid 2NT because 3D will never get us to 3NT when it is right. After a 3C continuation to my 2NT bid, I will try 4D to invite that game.....

2nt after a 2♣ rebid by pard is quite ok.
If pard bids again 3♣, I'm not so happy with this hand, and I would be happier with signing off in 3♦ (rather than inviting with 4♦): IMHO, I have already given pard a good picture of my shape and strength. If he is x xxx xxxx xxxxx, 3♦ might be the max we can get on a trump lead; and even if he is 5-5 in the minors, there are too many things to do to gather 11 tricks.

[Al_U_Card]

Kalvan14, on Jan 9 2006, 06:26 PM, said:

Al_U_Card, on Jan 9 2006, 11:41 AM, said:

I will hope that I didn't hesitate too long before my pass hit the table.  When pard rebids 2C I will likely bid 2NT because 3D will never get us to 3NT when it is right.  After a 3C continuation to my 2NT bid, I will try 4D to invite that game.....

2nt after a 2♣ rebid by pard is quite ok.
If pard bids again 3♣, I'm not so happy with this hand, and I would be happier with signing off in 3♦ (rather than inviting with 4♦): IMHO, I have already given pard a good picture of my shape and strength. If he is x xxx xxxx xxxxx, 3♦ might be the max we can get on a trump lead; and even if he is 5-5 in the minors, there are too many things to do to gather 11 tricks.

There might also be the 4D5C hand to consider....