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Hand evaluation worth an invite?

#21 User is offline   foo 

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Posted 2006-January-09, 13:57

awm, on Jan 9 2006, 01:15 AM, said:

I'd actually invite on this hand. Transfer and raise is a different kind of invite than rebidding 2NT. I expect partner to evaluate that:

(1) Trump honors and side quick tricks are good.
(2) Trump fit is good, side doubleton very good.
(3) Slow outside cards are bad, although 3NT maybe an outside shot.

There are "maximums" where I would decline this sort of invite, and "minimums" where I would accept. For example game is good opposite:

Kxx.Axxx.Axx.Axx

Game is lousy opposite:

xx.KQxx.KQx.AQJx

It's true that diamond honors are worth more than heart honors, and that partner won't be able to figure this out, but I think partner is well-equipped to bid game on the first of these hands and pass 3 on the second.

Darn good analysis. The issue from my POV is which is more likely, hands more your 1st example or hands more like your 2nd?

ATT, I'd sweat over this one.

My thoughts would go something like this:
balanced 14 HCP => 4.6 controls on average
balanced 15 HCP => 5.0 controls on average
balanced 16 HCP => 5.5 controls on average

We need 7+ controls to be in Game. I have a 2 control 7 loser hand opposite a hand with 5 expected controls and 7 expected losers when we have a known fit. We may even have a 9 card fit.

Therefore my hand is worth an invite at MPs and a GF Red at IMPs (you are never going to accurately describe AQT9xx.x.xxxx.xx in the room available).

White at IMPs or playing BAM, I'm going to be playing a lot of possible boards in my head before I take my next call...
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Posted 2006-January-09, 15:23

At imps I would just texas at any vul and bid the darn game.
At mp tfr and pass.
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Posted 2006-January-20, 03:29

What it boils down to is bid game if you are an optimist dont bid game if you are a pessimist invite if you are in between .
Lotsa emotion but no real science :lol:
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Posted 2006-January-20, 04:51

I would invite game.

We can go down in 3 if pard has much wasted, we can make 4 on many hands.
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Posted 2006-January-20, 04:58

Free, on Jan 8 2006, 04:29 AM, said:


1NT* - 2
2 - ?

Partner starts with 1NT (14-16), you transfer to , partner just accepts, opps being quiet. Do you try something or not?
- at imps?
- at MP's?

MPs: pass
IMPs NV: invite
IMPs Vul: bid 4S
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Posted 2006-January-20, 05:26

zasanya, on Jan 20 2006, 04:29 AM, said:

What it boils down to is bid game if you are an optimist dont bid game if you are a pessimist invite if you are in between .
Lotsa emotion but no real science :lol:

The boil is 10total points VS 14-16 nt opened. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2006-January-20, 05:32

Free, on Jan 8 2006, 07:29 PM, said:


1NT* - 2
2 - ?

Partner starts with 1NT (14-16), you transfer to , partner just accepts, opps being quiet. Do you try something or not?
- at imps?
- at MP's?

in a word NO :rolleyes: at any scoring :lol:
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