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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2006-January-06, 13:31

I am surprised no big name pros have not gone to an internet asking forum.

How many of us would pay 100$ a year to ask Fred (365/limit one per day) post questions a year? At the very least I would think they would earn enough to pay their Bar bill. They would not even have to answer the forum every day but batch process with a Whiskey while winding down from a tourney session.

We could see all the questions and answers to the paying customers.

At worst refund the money pro rata if too much of a pain.
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Posted 2006-January-06, 13:36

Many pros seem to do a good deal of "giving back" to the game. I cannot think of a better example of this than Fred. In reality if you want to ask Fred a question, he will answer e-mails and also has quite a few posts on the forums.

Many other pros are the same way if you were to ask them a bridge question. Some enjoy talking bridge more than others, but most give back in one way or another.

Also many pros are older, and not computer literate. Maybe no one has ever thought of this idea. Maybe if they have they think demand would be too low.
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Posted 2006-January-06, 13:45

How much time would it take a pro to answer 365 questions?
At least 6 hours, assuming 1 minute per question.
$100 per day. Not exactly raking in the bucks.

How much can a world class player make, plaing in a local club duplicate game, for a few hours, or on the interenet for a few hours?

Could the player rated #100 in the World charge $50? So in 2 sessions they would have $100? [ If its a lot less, like $10 then I'm ready to play. :) ]

I suspect they would rather do that, than answer difficult bidding questions that are asked here on occasion, and may each take a few minutes to respond to.


Also, I get the impression that they might not want to be exposed to ridicule if they make a mistake (a questionable judgement).
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Posted 2006-January-06, 13:46

There actually are email groups among some of the top players that are pretty exclusive. They will circulate problems among themselves and it stays tight knit.

If you ever get asked to participate, consider yourself honored. :)
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Posted 2006-January-06, 16:14

Experts disagree on just about anything. By asking one something, you'll only get one side of the story.
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Posted 2006-January-06, 16:38

whereagles, on Jan 6 2006, 05:14 PM, said:

Experts disagree on just about anything. By asking one something, you'll only get one side of the story.

While I agree with this it doesn't mean you cannot learn from asking experts questions. You can cultivate your own style/beliefs/opinions based on what these (experienced) experts tell you and hearing their thought process. Maybe you'll agree, maybe you'll disagree but if you keep an open mind you'll always learn something.
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Posted 2006-January-07, 13:43

Jlall, on Jan 6 2006, 05:38 PM, said:

whereagles, on Jan 6 2006, 05:14 PM, said:

Experts disagree on just about anything. By asking one something, you'll only get one side of the story.

While I agree with this it doesn't mean you cannot learn from asking experts questions. You can cultivate your own style/beliefs/opinions based on what these (experienced) experts tell you and hearing their thought process. Maybe you'll agree, maybe you'll disagree but if you keep an open mind you'll always learn something.

Well said.

Marlowe

PS: I think the existing forums (RGB and BBO to name
those i know a bit better)
already fullfill the job, the original poster is looking
for, and with no cost ... and dont forget Alvin Roths
side.

PSS: I even think there exist paid side, where you can ask
question, ... of course not managed by currently active players
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2006-January-09, 03:28

Jlall, on Jan 6 2006, 10:38 PM, said:

whereagles, on Jan 6 2006, 05:14 PM, said:

Experts disagree on just about anything. By asking one something, you'll only get one side of the story.

While I agree with this it doesn't mean you cannot learn from asking experts questions. You can cultivate your own style/beliefs/opinions based on what these (experienced) experts tell you and hearing their thought process. Maybe you'll agree, maybe you'll disagree but if you keep an open mind you'll always learn something.

Ditto, at least this works for me.

Whenever I have a doubt, question, idea, I post it here on BB Forum, and most times the ensuing discussion is rather fruitful for me.

Thanks all for this ! :P
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Posted 2006-January-09, 04:48

In most bidding examples for instance there is no such thing as the truth. You can ask the expert what he/she thinks is the best method, but all he/she can do is to tell you what works best for him/her, and that is not necessarily the "truth".

Let's take a basic example, as it occurred in the vugraphed Camrose matches over the weekend:

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2NT

Question 1: What should 2NT mean? 18-19 balanced, non forcing? Or should it be ambiguous: 18-19 balanced or a 3-4 level heart raise not suitable for a 3 or 4 rebid (hence forcing)?

Question 2: How should one proceed from there, depending on what 2NT shows? There are at least 4-5 different continuations altogether.

One expert will tell you that "A" is best, and the next likes "B" better. The third dislikes "A" and "B" and suggests "C" .... and so on and so forth.

Which expert should one believe then? The answer is: all of them! Just because they don't agree, it doesn't mean that they are not right. All of them could very well be. Like everything else, it will depend on one's partnership agreement and, consequently, what you are most comfortable with.

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Posted 2006-January-09, 04:58

Walddk, on Jan 9 2006, 10:48 AM, said:

In most bidding examples for instance there is no such thing as the truth. You can ask the expert what he/she thinks is the best method, but all he/she can do is to tell you what works best for him/her, and that is not necessarily the "truth".

Let's take a basic example, as it occurred in the vugraphed Camrose matches over the weekend:

1 - 1
2NT

Question 1: What should 2NT mean? 18-19 balanced, non forcing? Or should it be ambiguous: 18-19 balanced or a 3-4 level heart raise not suitable for a 3 or 4 rebid (hence forcing)?

Question 2: How should one proceed from there, depending on what 2NT shows? There are at least 4-5 different continuations altogether.

One expert will tell you that "A" is best, and the next likes "B" better. The third dislikes "A" and "B" and suggests "C" .... and so on and so forth.

Which expert should one believe then? The answer is: all of them! Just because they don't agree, it doesn't mean that they are not right. All of them could very well be. Like everything else, it will depend on one's partnership agreement and, consequently, what you are most comfortable with.

Roland

Indeed, and the best for us to learn is to listen to experts debates when they discuss the reasons of their likings.

Hearing the different reasons/theories clamed by experts A,B,C,D helps us mortals seeing both sides of the coin, and develop our own way to decide for one solution or the other :)
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