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Partner opens a weak NT and East overcalls 2S Acol 12-14 NT 2S usually 10-13 pts 5+sui

Poll: What do u bid? (15 member(s) have cast votes)

What do u bid?

  1. DBL (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 3 Clubs (Natural) (3 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  3. 3 Clubs (Lebensohl) (11 votes [73.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.33%

  4. 2NT (Lebensohl) then pass the puppet (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 2NT (not lebensohl) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 3NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Other (1 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

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#1 User is offline   badderzboy 

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Posted 2006-January-04, 04:23



Opps held this hand - what would u do?

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Posted 2006-January-04, 05:57

3 natural and forcing.
I honestly cannot think of a sane alternative.
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Posted 2006-January-04, 06:01

Hi,

if you play lebensohl, sell the hand
as strong with clubs.

You cant invite, playing MP, you could
also settle for 3C, which rates to be
better, 5C is a long way to go.

Marlowe
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Posted 2006-January-04, 06:07

I bid 2NT transfer to 3 and then 3NT showing a hand that wants to play 3NT without stopper.

If I don't have this agreement, I bid as Frances said : 3, natural and forcing

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Posted 2006-January-04, 06:28

3 natural, GF
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Posted 2006-January-04, 09:28

FrancesHinden, on Jan 4 2006, 06:57 AM, said:

3 natural and forcing.
I honestly cannot think of a sane alternative.

My thoughts exactly.
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Posted 2006-January-04, 09:34

3C natural and F. 2S is natural with S and not only do I have no S stop I have another flaw with the stiff H. This hand could make many C or NT I am not sure but bidding 3C does not prevent me from reaching 3N.

Most play fast arrival denies the S stop with 3N.
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Posted 2006-January-04, 10:16

As the poll indicates, the answer depends on system. Thus, if I played a natural method, I would agree with Frances and Justin. I prefer a transfer method (not lebensohl) in which 2N is a transfer to 3, over which I could force with 3, showing gf values with 4 and longer , or I could cue 3 to deny a stopper, while confirming long and gf values.

The first sequence would be more attractive with better : I really do not want to suggest a high-level contract opposite Qxxx, for example. But neither do I want to virtually insist on 3N opposite a stopper, given my shortness.

On balance, I bid 2N (in my methods) then 3, but I am uncomfortable with it.
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