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LHO leads ♠Q against your club slam. How would you play it?
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Posted 2006-January-04, 04:13
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LHO leads ♠Q against your club slam. How would you play it?
LHO leads ♠Q against your club slam. How would you play it?
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Posted 2006-January-04, 09:32
your 12 trick will come from ♥, leading ♥J at trick 2 might do the job.
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Posted 2006-January-04, 10:05
Yes, it looks natural to win, cross in trumps and play a heart to the Jack. If this loses, you need trumps 3-2 (spade force).
I am not sure what the right line is if the HJ wins. You have various lines that can cope with 4-1 trumps (particularly if you have the 9 or even the 87 of clubs).
I am not sure what the right line is if the HJ wins. You have various lines that can cope with 4-1 trumps (particularly if you have the 9 or even the 87 of clubs).
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Posted 2006-January-04, 10:09
FrancesHinden, on Jan 4 2006, 11:05 AM, said:
Yes, it looks natural to win, cross in trumps and play a heart to the Jack. If this loses, you need trumps 3-2 (spade force).
I am not sure what the right line is if the HJ wins. You have various lines that can cope with 4-1 trumps (particularly if you have the 9 or even the 87 of clubs).
I am not sure what the right line is if the HJ wins. You have various lines that can cope with 4-1 trumps (particularly if you have the 9 or even the 87 of clubs).
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Posted 2006-January-04, 11:05
What are the club pips?
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Posted 2006-January-04, 11:40
I believe that when trumps are 4-1 you can only win when ♦ are 3-3
When you leave one trump outside, the opp with 4 trumps can probably ruff the 3rd♦ and collect a ♠.
When you leave him with 2 trumps, and he ruffs the 3rd ♦, he forces you to ruff a ♠ with a high trump. This is then the last time you're in your hand and you will have to hand over a trick in ♥.
So I think the first thing to do is playing TWO rounds of ♣ and when they're 4-1, play a 3rd round of it, cross to dummy (♥) and play ♣J. Then play 5 rounds of ♦.
When trumps are 3-2, you take the finesse in ♥ after the 2nd round of ♣. When it wins, you can ruff a ♠, and cross back to dummy to play ♣J and play 3 rounds of ♦ to eliminate the 2nd ♠-loser.
When the ♥-finesse loses, you have an extra entry (♥Q) to develop ♦.
When you leave one trump outside, the opp with 4 trumps can probably ruff the 3rd♦ and collect a ♠.
When you leave him with 2 trumps, and he ruffs the 3rd ♦, he forces you to ruff a ♠ with a high trump. This is then the last time you're in your hand and you will have to hand over a trick in ♥.
So I think the first thing to do is playing TWO rounds of ♣ and when they're 4-1, play a 3rd round of it, cross to dummy (♥) and play ♣J. Then play 5 rounds of ♦.
When trumps are 3-2, you take the finesse in ♥ after the 2nd round of ♣. When it wins, you can ruff a ♠, and cross back to dummy to play ♣J and play 3 rounds of ♦ to eliminate the 2nd ♠-loser.
When the ♥-finesse loses, you have an extra entry (♥Q) to develop ♦.
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Posted 2006-January-04, 12:42
FrancesHinden, on Jan 4 2006, 05:05 PM, said:
What are the club pips?
Highest is the 7, I think.
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Posted 2006-January-06, 04:19
toothbrush, on Jan 4 2006, 05:40 PM, said:
I believe that when trumps are 4-1 you can only win when ♦ are 3-3
When you leave one trump outside, the opp with 4 trumps can probably ruff the 3rd♦ and collect a ♠.
When you leave him with 2 trumps, and he ruffs the 3rd ♦, he forces you to ruff a ♠ with a high trump. This is then the last time you're in your hand and you will have to hand over a trick in ♥.
So I think the first thing to do is playing TWO rounds of ♣ and when they're 4-1, play a 3rd round of it, cross to dummy (♥) and play ♣J. Then play 5 rounds of ♦.
When trumps are 3-2, you take the finesse in ♥ after the 2nd round of ♣. When it wins, you can ruff a ♠, and cross back to dummy to play ♣J and play 3 rounds of ♦ to eliminate the 2nd ♠-loser.
When the ♥-finesse loses, you have an extra entry (♥Q) to develop ♦.
When you leave one trump outside, the opp with 4 trumps can probably ruff the 3rd♦ and collect a ♠.
When you leave him with 2 trumps, and he ruffs the 3rd ♦, he forces you to ruff a ♠ with a high trump. This is then the last time you're in your hand and you will have to hand over a trick in ♥.
So I think the first thing to do is playing TWO rounds of ♣ and when they're 4-1, play a 3rd round of it, cross to dummy (♥) and play ♣J. Then play 5 rounds of ♦.
When trumps are 3-2, you take the finesse in ♥ after the 2nd round of ♣. When it wins, you can ruff a ♠, and cross back to dummy to play ♣J and play 3 rounds of ♦ to eliminate the 2nd ♠-loser.
When the ♥-finesse loses, you have an extra entry (♥Q) to develop ♦.
This is the correct line. At least at table that's what worked
Trumps were 4-1 and the heart king was offside, but diamonds broke 3-3.
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