[Blofeld]

Scoring: IMP

Opponents are silent.

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Playing your favourite system and gadgets, what's your normal auction on these hands? I'd prefer if you gave the standard auction even if that lands you in a suboptimal contract rather than picking some odd bids that simply happen to work with these hands.

[mila85]

2nt-3♦
p

or
2nt-3♠
4♠-p

2nt is 5-5 minors and we play it solid (8-13).

[mike777]

Blofeld, on Nov 20 2005, 09:09 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

Opponents are silent.

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Playing your favourite system and gadgets, what's your normal auction on these hands? I'd prefer if you gave the standard auction even if that lands you in a suboptimal contract rather than picking some odd bids that simply happen to work with these hands.

Old fashion natural, no conventions, no gadgets!

1c=1h
2c=2s
3d=3s
4s=p

[awm]

Playing fairly standard methods:

1♦ - 1♥
2♣ - 2♠ (4th suit force)
3♣ - 3♠ (natural)
4♠ - Pass

I would open 1♦ because the diamonds are much stronger, and I want to get both suits in. While I essentially never open 1♦ with 4-5 in the minors, I will do so fairly often with 5-6.

Playing weirder stuff:

1♦ - 1♥
2♣ - 2♠ (GF relay)
3NT (2-0-5-6) - 4♥ (transfer to spades)
4♠ - Pass

In either case 3NT is a possible spot, but I think 4♠ is a little more likely on these hands.

[Robert]

Hello Blofeld

A 'normal auction' for these two opposing 5 above 6 hands?

I get dealt these hands every day.

1D-1H-2C-2S-3C-3S-4S(partner expected me to bid over 3Ss, I really wanted to pass)

I am guessing that partner has 5S and 6Hs, he could have rebid his hearts over my 3C bid or supported either minor. That hopefully leaves him with long spades.

I hope that he does not bid slam without a real "Monster" hand in another auction.

I would rather get a poor result 'not' passing a 'forcing' bid than destroy partnership confidence by taking a view.

Resubmit this two hands with AQxxx of spades and let me see 'if' the hands are bid the same way. My auction stays the same.

After a trump lead, there might be a shortage of tricks.

If there is a 4-2 trump break...? That AQxxx suit might fall apart.

Regards,
Robert

[P_Marlowe]

Playing something similar to SAYC

1C - 1H
2C - 2S
2NT (1) - 3S (2)
3NT (3) - ???(4)

(1) Ugly, but 3C is not really an option,
and 3D is 4th suit
(2) 6-5
(3) 4S is probably ok as well
(4) Pass, or 4H => Partner will correct to 4S

Marlowe

[mike777]

"Resubmit this two hands with AQxxx of spades and let me see 'if' the hands are bid the same way. My auction stays the same.

After a trump lead, there might be a shortage of tricks.

If there is a 4-2 trump break...? That AQxxx suit might fall apart."


1) With that suit I would just rebid 2H weak now over a 2club rebid. 1c=1h=2c=2h=p.
2) If 1d=1h=2c= then 2nt now and opener can just pass.

[EricK]

1♦ (i) 1♥ (ii)
2♣ 2♠ (iii)
3♣ 3♠ (iv)
3NT (v)

(i) I don't like distorting suit lengths but this looks like 5-5
(ii) Responder has no need to distort suit lengths!
(iii) initially FSF, but...
(iv) ... could be natural
(v) I hope it makes!

Eric

[Cascade]

1♦ 1♥
2♣ 3♠
3NT

With such good diamonds and poor clubs I would vary from my usual standard of always bidding the five-card suit first

We play a jump in the fourth suit is natural showing a genuine 2-suiter and GF so 3♠ shows a 5-6 distribution

I think opener should try 3NT but raising to 4♠ is possible. Depends how likely it is for the opponents to force declarer off in clubs and how good partner's hearts are.

[Impact]

1♦ - 1♥
2NT - 4♠

Explanation: utility opening 10-15HCP, minor three suiter with <5♠ or minor 2 suiter or 4♠ with longer minor

Relay

2NT= at least 5+5+ minors with short ♥

Conclusion.


Interestingly if the other hand opens, I would have a very different auction: this hand type is too good to open with a limited bid but begs the question if you open with a strong bid. Accordingly we would open it 2♥ to show either Acol in ♥ or weak two in ♠ or weak in both minors. Over a strong enquiry the hand which has the Acol two type and is 65 specifically shows it in the Majors - thereby taking a lot of pressure off the limited Major openings when you have well-textured 65s

[Fluffy]

the start is prety standard:

1♦-1♠
2♣-3♥

Now West can either bid 3♠,3NT or 4♠. I like 4♠ the most (3♠ being stronger). But not sure if I would do it given the hand.

[Fluffy]

If nroth was deealer:

-.-.-.1♠
2♦-2♥
3♣-3♥
4♠

[kenrexford]

Just because it is neat for this hand, one of my favorite systems/conventions (from the past) would go like this:

2NT (minors, weak)
3H (spades; 3S would be hearts)
4H (void, Qx or better in spades)
4S

In the present world:

1D (promises a stiff or void somewhere, 4+ diamonds)
1H (natural)
2C (10 to bad 13, minors)
2S (forcing)
3C (more minor chape)
3S (6-5)
4S

[HeartA]

I would treat this as 5-5 or 6-6 majors and respond 1♠ (I would open 1♠ as well if East as openers):

1♦-1♠
2♣-2♥
3♣-3♥
3/4♠-(4♠)

[Echognome]

This hand would be quite difficult in my methods. We play 2NT as both minors either weak or GF, so that is out. Instead, we'd have to start with a nebulous 1♣.

1♣ - 2♥(1)
2♠(2) - 2NT(3)
3NT - ?

(1) Game Forcing at least 5♥ and 5 of another.
(2) Relay asking for second suit
(3) At least 5/5 in the majors. Nuts.

Here East has to decide whether to trust partner's 3NT or insist with 4♥. I would tend to just pass 3NT.

[SchTsch]

Well, in the system I play bidding would go like this:

1♦(1) - 3♥(2)
3NT - ?

(1) 14+ natural
(2) (55)+ ♥♠ GF

Now responder should probably pass with obviously misfit hands. Alternative is to bid 4♥, opener to bid 4♠ as final contract.

Same thing would be if opener opened 1♣ instead of 1♦.

[Free]

MOSCITO:

1♠ - 1NT (4+♦ unbalanced ; relay, can be weak)
2♣ - 2♥ (54+m, longer suit unknown ; relay, GF)
2NT - 3♣ (55+m ; relay)
4♣ - 4♦ (2-0-5-6 ; end signal)
4♥ - 4♠/NT (obligated ; signoff)

We were looking for a Major fit, 4♣ gets us past 3NT because of the extreme shape. Perhaps a relay break would turn out better here, but the hands might have slam too easily...

The choice is between 4♠ and 4NT imo. I'd probably bid both 4NT and 4♠ depending on the mood when I get such hands.

[Al_U_Card]

mike777, on Nov 20 2005, 12:31 PM, said:

Old fashion natural, no conventions, no gadgets!

1c=1h
2c=2s
3d=3s
4s=p

ditto

[inquiry]

My auction (however it is not very normal)

1D - 1H
3C*-3NT
PAss


3C*= at least five five either suit can be longer, and weak
3NT = all this stuff and this is as high as I can go.. dang it...

[FrancesHinden]

1♦ - 1♥
2♣ - 3♠
4♠ - P

1♦: I don't usually do this, but the suit disparity persuades me to
3♠: 5-6 or better, game forcing

(We play 4th suit followed by re-4th suit as natural only if the other hand bids NT, so we specifically have a bid to show FG with lots of majors)