[kgr]

Scoring: IMP

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Bidding:
P-(2NT)-?
2NT is natural - 20-22 and NT distribution.
You have no bid to show this 2-suits.
What do you call?

[mr1303]

Pass. I think bidding would be crazy. I have a lot of losers and no reason to expect a fit. Indeed, they might find their way to a 4S contract with a 5-0 trump split.

[kenrexford]

I have a bid to show this call -- 3C (clubs plus a major), but I would probably remain silent nonetheless.

This reminds me, however, of a funny story. A friend of mine thought, for some reason, that Cappelletti was on here. (2NT as 19-20 being "weak"?) Anyway, on a hand with a one-suiter, he overcalled 3C. His partner at the time, a pro friend of mine, heard a double and was relieved to be able to pass. The resulting mayhem landed my friends in a making major game, doubled.

So, if 2NT had been 19-20, I'd overcall 3H as Cappelletti. The fact that 2NT shows 20-22, a strong 2NT, is unfortunate for system.

[pbleighton]

I tend to bid where more sensible players pass, but I pass here. Opps are so likely to have a game, and 3H won't stop them from finding it. You just road map the play.

Peter

[P_Marlowe]

If you can show the 2-suiter, fine, show the 2-suiter,
else, why do you play this convention,
if you cant show the 2-suiter, fine too, but pass.

Marlowe

[joker_gib]

Pass

[Al_U_Card]

If RHO couldn't find a S bid, then hopefully you have 4D as a Texas xfr and will get to play in 4H.....

[bridge2k]

Pass. Poor suits

[bearmum]

Pass

[kgr]

Being sure that opps have a vulnerable manche, I choose to bid 3H, LHO did bid 3S and my partner raised to 4H with a doubleton H and ♦AK.
4H was doubled by the 2NT opener.n Becuase opps thought I had a 7-card H, they did misdefend.
The result was 4Hx-2, while 4S could make +1.
Opps were furious about my 3H bid. They said it is suicide.

[P_Marlowe]

kgr, on Nov 22 2005, 04:04 PM, said:

Being sure that opps have a vulnerable manche, I choose to bid 3H, LHO did bid 3S and my partner raised to 4H with a doubleton H and ♦AK.
4H was doubled by the 2NT opener.n Becuase opps thought I had a 7-card H, they did misdefend.
The result was 4Hx-2, while 4S could make +1.
Opps were furious about my 3H bid. They said it is suicide.

Hi,

it is not wrong to enter, just risky if you cant
show the two suiter.

Did partner have Hx in hearts ?
else you would lose 3 hearts tricks, and 3, and the
danger is, that you loose control if they continue
spades. ... which can easiliy lead to 800-1100.
The best you normally can expect is getting away with
300-500, but only if you have a fair chance to reach a
reasonable fit.

Marlowe

PS: They should be more furious about their misdefence.

[kgr]

P_Marlowe, on Nov 22 2005, 11:17 PM, said:

kgr, on Nov 22 2005, 04:04 PM, said:

Being sure that opps have a vulnerable manche, I choose to bid 3H, LHO did bid 3S and my partner raised to 4H with a doubleton H and ♦AK.
4H was doubled by the 2NT opener.n Becuase opps thought I had a 7-card H, they did misdefend.
The result was 4Hx-2, while 4S could make +1.
Opps were furious about my 3H bid. They said it is suicide.

Hi,

it is not wrong to enter, just risky if you cant
show the two suiter.

Did partner have Hx in hearts ?
else you would lose 3 hearts tricks, and 3, and the
danger is, that you loose control if they continue
spades. ... which can easiliy lead to 800-1100.
The best you normally can expect is getting away with
300-500, but only if you have a fair chance to reach a
reasonable fit.

Marlowe

PS: They should be more furious about their misdefence.

- partner did have xx in hearts
- RHO did have AKx in hearts
- I did ruff the S lead, crossed to ♦A of dummy and played a H taking by the K of RHO. Because a bit later in the play RHO - after ruffing Club - played his H ace because he thought I had a 7-card H.
I lost ♥AKx and ♣AK

[coyot]

Given the shape and vulnerability, I'll gladly bid 3H. Sure, I can go down a ton, but I can find a good sacrifice. Unless trumps divide badly, opps are unlikely to leave me in 3♥ doubled even if partner has a singleton.

There are other benefits - i.e. when the bidding goes p-2NT-3H-x-4H-4S, I can now bid 5c to show partner that we might have a good sacrifice against opps slam as well.

Of course, it's a close decision, given the likely dead diamond queen... having that queen in clubs, it would be a definite bid

[Gerben42]

I think in favour of bidding is that opps don't have any agreement. BTW I would have bid a crash-style Double (round or pointy suits). Unlikely to get as high as 4♥ even if getting in after 2NT shows a shapely hand.

[P_Marlowe]

kgr, on Nov 22 2005, 04:24 PM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Nov 22 2005, 11:17 PM, said:

kgr, on Nov 22 2005, 04:04 PM, said:

Being sure that opps have a vulnerable manche, I choose to bid 3H, LHO did bid 3S and my partner raised to 4H with a doubleton H and ♦AK.
4H was doubled by the 2NT opener.n Becuase opps thought I had a 7-card H, they did misdefend.
The result was 4Hx-2, while 4S could make +1.
Opps were furious about my 3H bid. They said it is suicide.

Hi,

it is not wrong to enter, just risky if you cant
show the two suiter.

Did partner have Hx in hearts ?
else you would lose 3 hearts tricks, and 3, and the
danger is, that you loose control if they continue
spades. ... which can easiliy lead to 800-1100.
The best you normally can expect is getting away with
300-500, but only if you have a fair chance to reach a
reasonable fit.

Marlowe

PS: They should be more furious about their misdefence.

- partner did have xx in hearts
- RHO did have AKx in hearts
- I did ruff the S lead, crossed to ♦A of dummy and played a H taking by the K of RHO. Because a bit later in the play RHO - after ruffing Club - played his H ace because he thought I had a 7-card H.
I lost ♥AKx and ♣AK

What happens, if they continue spade?

After they won he Ace of hearts.

Marlowe

[Kalvan14]

3♥ is really going for a swing. I would pass most of the time on this hand.
Last but not least among the reason for a pass is that EW might be 4-4 in spades (with N holding 5 ). It would be quite funny if my 3♥ overcall succeeds in steering them away from the bad 4♠ contract toward a 3NT making (or penalising my 3♥ )