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You are dealer, white vs red at IMPs, with _ - KQxx - xx - KQJT9xx, and the bidding has gone :
1♣ - (P) - 1♦ - (1♠)
2♣ - (3♠) - 3NT - (4♠)
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Do you agree with your bids so far ?
Now, do you :
- bid 5♣ ?
- pass and remove your partner's X to 5♣ ?
- pass and pass your partner's X ?
- other ?
Comments are of course welcome.
Michael
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0 = 4 = 2 = 7
#2 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2005-November-10, 17:55
I agree 100 % with all my bids so far.
My answer to this depends solely on my opps. If they are sane, I'm going to bid 5C. I have no defense and no spades, and they are red/white so I don't think theyre joking around, they will have extreme shape. A double game swing is possible. 5C will be cheap (or a make) and pard will often X them when it's wrong if I pass.
Against less sane opps, these inferences are less valid. I would probably pass against weak opps and just assume they are going nuts and pard might be ready for them.
My answer to this depends solely on my opps. If they are sane, I'm going to bid 5C. I have no defense and no spades, and they are red/white so I don't think theyre joking around, they will have extreme shape. A double game swing is possible. 5C will be cheap (or a make) and pard will often X them when it's wrong if I pass.
Against less sane opps, these inferences are less valid. I would probably pass against weak opps and just assume they are going nuts and pard might be ready for them.
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Posted 2005-November-10, 18:10
I agree with all bids so far (mine, anyway) and I pull to 5♣ now. For me, passing and pulling shows more slam interest than I have: void AKxx xx KQJ109xx would be a minimum for pass and pull, given that partner has (probably) wasted ♠ values.
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Posted 2005-November-10, 18:11
mikeh, on Nov 10 2005, 07:10 PM, said:
For me, passing and pulling shows more slam interest than I have: void AKxx xx KQJ109xx would be a minimum for pass and pull, given that partner has (probably) wasted ♠ values.
hmm that seems like a strong 2C rebid.
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Posted 2005-November-10, 18:34
i honestly don't understand pass/pull here... why do i pass, to see if partner x's them? i don't really want that, do i? i have little defense, so i'll bid 5♣ to say that
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Posted 2005-November-10, 19:46
We are not in a forcing pass situation.
Pard may have been serious with 3N, or he might be joshing around. Either way, 5♣ looks OK.
There's not much reason to wait until you pull pard's double here. Just bid 5♣.
Pard may have been serious with 3N, or he might be joshing around. Either way, 5♣ looks OK.
There's not much reason to wait until you pull pard's double here. Just bid 5♣.
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Posted 2005-November-10, 20:04
pclayton, on Nov 10 2005, 08:46 PM, said:
We are not in a forcing pass situation.
Pard may have been serious with 3N, or he might be joshing around. Either way, 5♣ looks OK.
Pard may have been serious with 3N, or he might be joshing around. Either way, 5♣ looks OK.
We are in a forcing pass unless partner psyched. Isn't this the case in EVERY forcing pass?
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Posted 2005-November-10, 21:33
"Pard may have been serious with 3N, or he might be joshing around."
I love foolish bids, but isn't this a strange place to fool around?
FWIW, I agree with the bidding and I would bid 5C.
Peter
I love foolish bids, but isn't this a strange place to fool around?
FWIW, I agree with the bidding and I would bid 5C.
Peter
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Posted 2005-November-10, 23:05
Sometimes 4NT still makable but not 5C. This one seems not of that kind.
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Posted 2005-November-11, 02:04
5C.
Over 3NT I would have bid 4C,
since Partner cant expect this
hand, so I see no reason to
change my mind, I just rebid clubs
on a higher level.
Marlowe
Over 3NT I would have bid 4C,
since Partner cant expect this
hand, so I see no reason to
change my mind, I just rebid clubs
on a higher level.
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2005-November-12, 08:21
Here is the full hand :
Both 4♠ and 5♣ are cold.
Scoring: IMP
Both 4♠ and 5♣ are cold.
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