[Al_U_Card]

Scoring: MP

1♥-p-1♠-???

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You are Red vs Wht and LHO is dealer.
Normally, bidding with the opp's suit is a no-no,
but should you take action and why?

[mike777]

Al_U_Card, on Nov 7 2005, 04:42 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

1♥-p-1♠-???

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You are Red vs Wht and LHO is dealer.
Normally, bidding with the opp's suit is a no-no,
but should you take action and why?

5D, partner did not overcall 1S.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

2D.

I wont preempt them, they have
the spades, but if they end
up in 3NT, I want partner to lead
diamond.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Kalvan14]

I still prefer 3 diamonds, more interdictive. However, pard can well have 4 or 5 spades. I doubt he would get in with QTxxx

[MickyB]

You could make shockingly few tricks on this hand - LHO has five hearts to cover yours, and you'll be lucky to get in more than one ruff before RHO starts overruffing. 3♦ is enough.

[Fluffy]

Do we wana be on 5♦ X?. I would say no, too many ♥s losed and void in the uundeclared suit (wich often belongs to partner) no, so we just wanna jam their bidding, 3♦ will acomplish a bit of room, while 4♦ might make West fail to raise ♠s. Anythign can be right, but I'll trry only 3 this time.

[Gerben42]

3♦ - if partner cannot save I surely wont

[Al_U_Card]

so

Pard has seen
1♥-p-1♠-2♦-
4♦-???

On asking, 4♦ shows 1st rnd control.

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What is your call?

[whereagles]

3♦ is probably the bid that annoys opps the most. A 4♦ overcall would simply induce LHO to bid 4♠, to which you have no defense to. If 3♦ isn't "enough" for you, then bid 5

As for pard's point of view, you can bid a lead-directing 4♥ now.

[Al_U_Card]

Exactly! If the H AQ holder bids 4H, then the low H lead gets a C return which scuttles the S slam........

[Robert]

Hello everyone

Did everyone see the we were RED and they were White?

Bid 5Ds at red vs white? Did the scoring table change again?

Fluffy seems to understand that 5Ds might go for a very large number. A telephone number to Mars or even maybe as far out as Pluto.

With an understanding partner, I can just see a possible 3D bid.

With an agreement that a 2D bid shows a good suit and 'perhaps' nothing else, I can also just see a 2D bid.

Hello Al _U_ Card No information on vulnerable conditions or type of game?

I like the idea of bidding 4H to get the lead. I expect that partner 'knew' who was vulnerable when he bid. I do have some values for him.

Regards,
Robert

[Kalvan14]

Scoring: MP

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It's quite funny, but I had a very similar hand last night.

I opened 1♣-(2♥)-X-(3♥)-P-(P)-3♠-(4♥)-X

Two down, for a 300 which was a shared top. Hearts were divided, and we were not playing anything better than a partial score with our 25 HCP. W lost 3♣, and the two outside aces: he might have been unlucky (there was no guarantee that my ♣ would be 5-card) but if you play the same game over 1♥ opening, which is sure to be 5-card, the result cannot be different. Remember that he found a fit, and 2 (!) aces in dummy.

[Al_U_Card]

Robert, on Nov 8 2005, 05:52 PM, said:

With an agreement that a 2D bid shows a good suit and 'perhaps' nothing else, I can also just see a 2D bid.

Hello Al _U_ Card No information on vulnerable conditions or type of game?

I like the idea of bidding 4H to get the lead. I expect that partner 'knew' who was vulnerable when he bid. I do have some values for him.

The conditions haven't changed since the start of the thread, I was too lazy to add them in again.......In that sequence, the lesser lie about values (way too many H and a definite fear of a penalty double of 3D) prompted the reluctant 2D bid.

Clearly, the H AQ holder is thinking about where the auction is going and since I have shown "values" for my 2D bid, I can understand a wait and see attitude but the 4H bid is a freebie since they have shown Spades and he holds 4.....