[Fluffy]

Scoring: IMP

E - S - W - N
ps-ps-4♠-ps
ps-??

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If you are just passing, would you reopen with 1444 or another Q?, or need a 5-5 or spade void to reopen at this level?

[han]

I pass, if I would act then I would double, but the hand is not good enough. Give me a minor suit queen and I would act. The colors are right and LHO is a passed hand, all good news.

[mikeh]

I am going to go out on a limb and make what I know is a foolish prediction. This poll will garner as close to a unanimous vote as any ever posted.

At the risk of confirming my lack of insight, I cannot see why anyone would do anything but pass.

And changing my shape to 1=4=4=4 would not change this at all (for me, altho my prediction of unanimity would be weakened).

Frankly, I cannot easily picture any hand with which I would first pass and then, opposite a partner unable to act, commit us to either -590 or worse, on defence, or a 5-level adventure without radical shape: 5-5 is a minimum.

Good players in 3rd seat can have a very powerful hand for 4♠, especially if they play an aggressive style, since they will open 4♠ with any hand with which they think that bidding slam is remote. So even if your partner's 5-level bid gets by RHO, the 4♠ bidder can lower the boom when the bid gets around to him without his needing a trump stack.

[mr1303]

I agree, against 4S here there is no hand with flattish shape (4441, 5431 etc) that would consider reopening here. People open 4S in third seat with all manner of good hands, and bidding here is fairly suicidal. If partner leaves a double in he'll be very disappointed in your hand for defensive purposes, since you have very soft values, and you've way too many losers to have any level of safety at the 5 level.

[MickyB]

Yes, this is an obvious pass.

Think I might start another thread on this auction...

[Free]

pass, wtp?