[luke warm]

i can frankly say that it never entered my mind that my pass would be forcing... i'd be surprised if partner later told me it was, but would be willing to listen to his reasons

[000002]

The frequency dominates an un-beauideal circs.
how to do when u hold a 5431(♦s/v) model with 10hcps? 5♠ too high in many times..To avoid a temerity--judge(guess) on 5level,I prefer to lose a game when 5♦ be made up(+) about 5%. But it's going easier on partnership, on the table.

How to do when u hold a hand like this :
--
x
KQJxxxxx
Qxxx
4♦ is in a popular style. y?

I notice that 5♦ diffuse far and wide in the top players nowaday.Since u had to guess a 5♦ sacrifice or not after opps 4majors,many times an immolation waiting you and some times not.Five ♦ directly because of opps likely slam.

but,how to bid with a (really) 5♦ preempt ?4NT (show C+D at first) then back.Pay attention to these it encourage a 7♦ sacrifice.

regards

[Winstonm]

Jlall, on Oct 18 2005, 10:23 AM, said:

I could be wrong but I think a majority of the passers made a NF pass. I don't see any reason to play pass as forcing here.

Think you mis-read this - only the slow pass is forcing.

[han]

Jlall, on Oct 18 2005, 02:55 PM, said:

Hannie, on Oct 18 2005, 02:40 PM, said:

This idea is well known to many strong clubbers. I think that you really have to play pass as forcing over 1C-(pass)-1D-(3S)-??.

Remind me to bid 3S a lot against you, especially with very good hands

Justin, I wish you many good hands with long spades after my strong 1C openings.

[Al_U_Card]

Hannie, on Oct 19 2005, 11:47 AM, said:

Jlall, on Oct 18 2005, 02:55 PM, said:

Hannie, on Oct 18 2005, 02:40 PM, said:

This idea is well known to many strong clubbers. I think that you really have to play pass as forcing over 1C-(pass)-1D-(3S)-??.

Remind me to bid 3S a lot against you, especially with very good hands

Justin, I wish you many good hands with long spades after my strong 1C openings.

Others should see how to play nice like this ........polite but just sufficiently menacing .....roflmao

[Al_U_Card]

That's what friends (and bridge partners) are for....

[han]

I actually didn't mean it as menacing at all, and as you know, I'm always very polite .

But usually when I open 1C, it is our hand. When they overcall 3S early in the auction, it becomes very hard for us to explore the best spot. Playing pass as forcing allows opener to show 2-suited hands (pass and pull, showing that suit and a higher), one suited hands (bid a suit immedately), penalty doubles (pass twice) and take-out doubles (double directly). As I said, sometimes you are fixed and it would be better if you could pass out 3S. I would not play pass as forcing when the opponents jump to game, but over 3S it seems like a very good trade-off to me.

I was under the impression that most top American pairs who play a strong club system have such an agreement, but obviously Justin knows this better than I do. It would be interested if he could tell whether Meckwell, Hamway, Cohen-Berkowitz and others play this. Perhaps we will see some of this when the Bermuda bowl starts.

[Al_U_Card]

Hannie, on Oct 19 2005, 01:23 PM, said:

I actually didn't mean it as menacing at all, and as you know, I'm always very polite .

But usually when I open 1C, it is our hand. When they overcall 3S early in the auction, it becomes very hard for us to explore the best spot.

So then it is a fudge to allow you to describe the hand that 1C was hiding...at the 4 level...well, 3S is an effective preempt