[Walddk]

It's a clear 1♠ opening to me, and if you think you are too weak for that, at least don't open a weak 2 with two aces and a void.

Roland

[barmar]

Impact, on Oct 10 2005, 12:06 AM, said:

however, simpliciter, surely East should have reverted to 3S (West did not bid 2D over the doubled 1NT so this is a fairly normal way of bidding 6-4 in the absence of the doubles and had the sequence been forcing-)

1NT was never doubled. South overcalled 2♥, so West never had a chance to bid 2♦. West's bidding suggests either 6-5 shape or that he thought East's 3♣ implied at least secondary support for ♦. But I think if East wanted West to pick a minor, he could have bid 2NT over the double.

[zasanya]

[quote name='Walddk' date='Oct 10 2005, 11:10 AM']It's a clear 1♠ opening to me, and if you think you are too weak for that, at least don't open a weak 2 with two aces and a void.

Of course not 2♠.Believe me I am not as stupid as I look
But surely pass and then overcall / respond in ♠ is a reasonable option?

[FrancesHinden]

We're all agreed on the sanity of the 3D bid.
I agree with 3C once 2S has been doubled.

As for the merits of the 2S bid: I used to agree with Justin that it's normal to bid here. But ever since we went for 800 against nothing in 2Sx on roughly the same start to the auction we've been monitoring these hands.

Now we think you should only bid 2S with a decent suit. You don't need any more high cards, but you do need a good suit.


(NV at pairs you can do whatever you fancy, of course)

[Walddk]

FrancesHinden, on Oct 10 2005, 09:21 PM, said:

As for the merits of the 2S bid: I used to agree with Justin that it's normal to bid here. But ever since we went for 800 against nothing in 2Sx on roughly the same start to the auction we've been monitoring these hands.

Now we think you should only bid 2S with a decent suit. You don't need any more high cards, but you do need a good suit.

That's perhaps the whole issue in a nutshell. Did West have an obvious 2♠ in a situation where he didn't have to bid? My guess is that ♥AQ tempted him (2 tricks now), and that he might have forgotten about the quality of his spade suit.

I would probably have bid 2♠ myself, but the more I think about, the more I doubt that it's the right strategy in the long run.

Roland

[tysen2k]

[edit: Sorry, I posted without noticing something so my argument goes out the window.]