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Constructing a hand for a silly auction 1S (pass) ?

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  Posted 2005-October-09, 06:40

Partner deals and opens 1♠, and right hand opponent passes. Can you construct a hand on which you would now bid 6♠? If scoring method or vulnerability would help, please feel free to adjust that.
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Posted 2005-October-09, 06:49

I can't make sense of it as a pre-empt, so maybe partner is invited to bid seven with the ♠A. Something like

♠ Kxxxx
♥ -
♦ AKQJxxxx
♣ -
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Posted 2005-October-09, 11:44

♠Axxxx(x) or Kxxxx(x) and a side 5/6 card suit headed by the Ace and a void somewhere.
But at least 11 cards in trump and the side suit and a void.

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Posted 2005-October-09, 11:55

Only when NV vs V, with very limited openings, without any points in responder's hand, and when we have all ♠s together (opps will have slam).

To bid 6♠ to make is ridiculous, so it should be a preempt imo...
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Posted 2005-October-09, 12:17

david_c, on Oct 9 2005, 07:49 AM, said:

I can't make sense of it as a pre-empt, so maybe partner is invited to bid seven with the ♠A. Something like

♠ Kxxxx
♥ -
♦ AKQJxxxx
♣ -

5NT should work fine on this hand.

Unless you have an agreement, 6S with a good hand is awful. I don't want to figure out what it asks for at the table, I'm sure that I won't get it right. I agree with Free, this should be a preempt, but I don't expect it ever to come up.
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  Posted 2005-October-09, 12:34

My thought was that I might want to bid it if I have a very distributional hand with enough spades that I know partner's opening was a psyche. Then I wondered if there was any 'valid' meaning for the bid.
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Posted 2005-October-09, 12:53

Blofeld, on Oct 9 2005, 07:40 AM, said:

Partner deals and opens 1♠, and right hand opponent passes. Can you construct a hand on which you would now bid 6♠?

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Posted 2005-October-09, 14:13

Blofeld, on Oct 9 2005, 06:34 PM, said:

My thought was that I might want to bid it if I have a very distributional hand with enough spades that I know partner's opening was a psyche. Then I wondered if there was any 'valid' meaning for the bid.

If we hold AKQJ1098765 A A 2, I suppose it's reasonable. I'm not sure partner won't lie to us when we bid 4NT (or pass!), but clearly that's better if not.

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Posted 2005-October-09, 14:15

Qxxxxxxx - x xxxx sounds like a reasonable 6S bid.
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Posted 2005-October-09, 20:32

nope, no hand I would bid 6S on.
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Posted 2005-October-09, 22:32

I like Andy's aproach, seems very sensible to me
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Posted 2005-October-10, 01:41

playing speedball or having real big time troubles and feeling behind in a team match are the only thinkable reasons besides the one suited hand in spades like Andy showed.
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Posted 2005-October-10, 01:43

Blofeld, on Oct 9 2005, 02:40 PM, said:

Can you construct a hand on which you would now bid 6♠?

Only if I hate my partner.

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Posted 2005-October-10, 02:32

Having no agreements about how to show voids, maybe even no agreements about RKC (or similar), I can imagine a lot of hands with which I would bid 6♠.
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Posted 2005-October-10, 07:24

Not sure I'd ever do this to me pard with the boss suit.

I've done it in a pickup game though.

The hand probably had a side xx, solid side suit, void and 5 or 6 trump.
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Posted 2005-October-10, 07:54

pclayton, on Oct 10 2005, 08:24 AM, said:

The hand probably had a side xx, solid side suit, void and 5 or 6 trump.

If I were going to gamble with a hand like AQxxx xx AKQJxx --- I think I would bid SEVEN spades instead of 6.
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Posted 2005-October-10, 09:28

Hannie, on Oct 9 2005, 01:17 PM, said:

david_c, on Oct 9 2005, 07:49 AM, said:

I can't make sense of it as a pre-empt, so maybe partner is invited to bid seven with the ♠A. Something like

♠ Kxxxx
♥ -
♦ AKQJxxxx
♣ -



5NT should work fine on this hand.

agree

personally, I am having difficulty constructing any hand that might respond 6S that couldn't/ shouldn't be bid some other way.
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