[Poky]

MP. They vul.

♠KQJxx
♥AKxxx
♦x
♣xx

4♥ (5♦) ???

[mr1303]

Partner has opened 4H? In that case I'm bidding 5S here so partner will know what to do if opps bid 6D. An alternative is double (stripey-tailed ape)

[whereagles]

It depends on what kind of hand I expect pard to have. If he's solid, 6♥. If he's REALLY solid, 5♥. If he's nuts, 7♥.

[flytoox]

pd wont have two aces white vs red. I bid 5H. If they bid 6D I dbl.

[inquiry]

A bid that appeals to me against some competition is not in the list. I would be thinking that maybe a stripe-tail double here at matchponts would work against weak opposition. First, good odds we have ZERO heart tricks on defense. And there is a lot of clubs somewhere. They surely have a play for 12 tricks in diamonds, and likely a play for 13. 5♦X making seven is less than the slam bonus. IF they redouble, I can reconsider and run to 5♥. However, the problem with the double here is surely you will hear a redouble on you left, or a "forget" about the double cue-bid of 5♥,

The other two options are 6♥ to remove 5♥ cue-bid from them, and a psyche 6♣ (fit non-jump). Since I am fairly sure that 6♥ is a cheap save even against 5♦ (should lose 2♣, 1♦, 1♠ at most, down 500), I am considering bidding that. The disadvantage is they might bid 7♦ over that and make. The good news about bidding 6♥, however, is that it does not establish a forcing pass for them. If you play around and let them show stregth BEFORE bidding 6♥, it does. West clearly has a LOT OF clubs. That is also the problem with 6♣-X then run to six hearts, that SETS UP the forcing pass to make it easier to find the magic 7♦.

So, immrediate 6♥.

[cherdano]

I don't understand the stripe-tail ape doublers, since going down in 6♥ costs less than their game, and going down in 7♥ costs less than their 5♦X making with an overtrick.

[mikeh]

6♥

maximum pressure: I will not bid 7 should they bid a grand: will hope for too much duplication for them to pitch their ♠ loser.. or that partner is, say, 7=4 in the rounded with a nuisance in ♣.

5♥ will almost certainly fetch 6♦, since LHO is likely to be void in ♥, to have a ♦ fit and to hold some black values. So bidding 5 then 6 allows LHO to bid 6♦ and then to pass 6♥ with the appropriate hand.

I think it far more likely that LHO will have to double an immediate 6♥ than a slow one, should they have a play for 13 tricks.

[mike777]

6h

[han]

6H for me, agree with Mikeh's argument.

What he didn't mention was that partner might very well be 7-4 with 4 diamonds. In that case, I'd like them to start looking for clubs at the 7-level.

[Trpltrbl]

I would like to know if my pd plays Namyats.
This will make decision a lot easier.
Now I have to guess if he has something on the outside ( ♣ ) or he has his everyday 8 card ♥.
If not playing Namyats I would bid 6♥, if playing namyats I would bid 5♥ followed by a double of every next bid by them. But not feeling happy with it.

GBB

[inquiry]

Trpltrbl, on Oct 5 2005, 12:00 PM, said:

I would like to know if my pd plays Namyats.
This will make decision a lot easier.
Now I have to guess if he has something on the outside ( ♣ ) or he has his everyday 8 card ♥.
If not playing Namyats I would bid 6♥, if playing namyats I would bid 5♥ followed by a double of every next bid by them. But not feeling happy with it.

GBB

While I play Namyats, I would never use it with a Queen high suit. Don't know if this is standard when playing Namyats, but it should be.

[Trpltrbl]

inquiry, on Oct 5 2005, 11:17 AM, said:

Trpltrbl, on Oct 5 2005, 12:00 PM, said:

I would like to know if my pd plays Namyats.
This will make decision a lot easier.
Now I have to guess if he has something on the outside ( ♣ ) or he has his everyday 8 card ♥.
If not playing Namyats I would bid 6♥, if playing namyats I would bid 5♥ followed by a double of every next bid by them. But not feeling happy with it.

GBB 

While I play Namyats, I would never use it with a Queen high suit. Don't know if this is standard when playing Namyats, but it should be.

I play Namyats based on amount of losers of the hand, so if I have QJ109solid 8 or 9 times with some outside values I would still open it Namyats. That's why I made statement in earlier post, I know he should have some outside values if openend Namyats.

GBB