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When do you bid 2D over (1N) 2C (P) ? (32) in the majors

Poll: When do you bid 2D over (1N) 2C (P) ? with (32) in the majors? (18 member(s) have cast votes)

When do you bid 2D over (1N) 2C (P) ? with (32) in the majors?

  1. Always with (32) in the majors. (4 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  2. Only with 2S and 3H (partner bids 2H usually with 5-5). (1 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  3. Never (always bid my 3 card suit). (9 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  4. Only with HH (two honors) in the 2-card suit and xxx in the 3-card suit. (1 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  5. Only with Hx (or better) in the 2-card suit and xxx in the 3-card suit. (2 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  6. With 2S and 3H or with xxx-HH. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. With 2S and 3H or with xxx-Hx. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Various considerations, including how good my hand is (please describe which of the above fits you best for each hand strength; does not include inv+ values). (1 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  9. Other (please describe). (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   kfgauss 

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Posted 2005-October-04, 19:58

When playing that 2 over the opponents' 1NT opening (let's say strong for the purposes of this post, but comment if it's different when weak) as both majors (5-4 or better) and playing that a 2 advance asks partner to choose, when do you bid 2 with (32) in the majors?

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Posted 2005-October-04, 23:08

Never say never but...

To me 2D says "i have no preference" so partner would have no reason to usually bid 2H with 5-5. He will bid his better one, trying to get to the best trump suit (to preempt the argument that the weaker suit can be the better trump suit, this happens only when you have some values).
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Posted 2005-October-04, 23:20

Jlall, on Oct 5 2005, 05:08 AM, said:

Never say never but...

To me 2D says "i have no preference" so partner would have no reason to usually bid 2H with 5-5. He will bid his better one, trying to get to the best trump suit (to preempt the argument that the weaker suit can be the better trump suit, this happens only when you have some values).

Ok, thanks. I intended the "usually bids 2H with 5-5" bit to be part of the vote (there's no reason to do this if you don't choose one of the 2S and 3H options).

Preliminary results suggest that my thinking is wrong or at least not standard here. It's my impression that the 5-2 will play better than the 4-3 when we're weak, and so I've been bidding 2 often when my hand isn't very good and I have (32) in the majors. Does anyone have any reasoning (or simulation data) why this is or is not a good idea?

Andy
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Posted 2005-October-05, 02:52

Hi,

always bid 2D, for the reason you gave:
ensuring that you play the 5-2 fit.

The 5-2 fit will be safer most of the, because
the 5-2 will be more robust when you encounter
the most likely trump break (4-2).

For the above statement I dont need sample
data, because the reason why 5-2 is safer
most of the time obviously true.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2005-October-05, 10:21

I like to play 2 as invitational + bid.
Therefore I will just bid my 3 card suit.

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