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Simple style / tactics question

Poll: Your call at MP's - 3rd seat (45 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call at MP's - 3rd seat

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 1 Spade (35 votes [77.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 77.78%

  3. 2 Spades (7 votes [15.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.56%

  4. 3 Spades (3 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  5. Other (explain) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#21 User is offline   Al_U_Card 

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Posted 2005-October-05, 08:59

Only ever 1S. My H are too good to preempt my partner (even if he is a passed hand, he can have 5 H and 10 hcp) and when RHO overcalls 2H I'll be glad that I'm not at the 2 level staring down the barrel.... :P
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Posted 2005-October-05, 09:39

1♠, perfect bid in my eyes.
I have no rebid problems, I can compete over 2 level overcalls from opps.
And pd knows what I have.
2♠ I would probably never do.
3♠ would be my distant second choice, very distant.....

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Posted 2005-October-05, 09:45

Hi,

1S or 2S, 1S most of the time,
but both bids are fine.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2005-October-05, 10:14

A couple of years ago I experimented with opening 2M in 3rd seat on a very wide variety of hands: from 5332 to 6421 shape, from 3 points to 12. Sometimes the extra pressure did give us a good score, but more often (in my experience) we got bad scores because partner could not know whether to pass, raise or double when they competed. We would end up in 3S doubled on bad 5-3 fits or let them play in 3m undoubled when it was really our hand. And sometimes just playing in 2S undoubled was bad, let's not forget those hands.

I still open with 5431 shapes when white but when I'm vulnerable I always have a decent 6-carder. I never have a real opening hand (like here). The opponents probably have an easy time against old predictable me. Hopefully so does partner.
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Posted 2005-October-05, 11:08

I posted this hand because I stopped opening weak 2's on hands like this about 5 years ago. Yesterday, it just felt right and tried it for 'old times sake' :P .

Pard had: Kxxx, xx, Txxx, AQx and we defended 4♥, barely beating it a trick when declarer misguessed trump (dummy had ATxx, she had Qxxx) reasonably playing my pard for the K.

4♠ is on a heart guess only, which you will get right on the auction. No one got to game amazingly - the +170's were ties for top. +50 was a 3/12 for us :) .
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Posted 2005-October-05, 11:12

pclayton, on Oct 5 2005, 12:08 PM, said:

I posted this hand because I stopped opening weak 2's on hands like this about 5 years ago. Yesterday, it just felt right and tried it for 'old times sake' :P .

Pard had: Kxxx, xx, Txxx, AQx and we defended 4♥, barely beating it a trick when declarer misguessed trump (dummy had ATxx, she had Qxxx) reasonably playing my pard for the K.

4♠ is on a heart guess only, which you will get right on the auction. No one got to game amazingly - the +170's were ties for top. +50 was a 3/12 for us :) .

It is shocking that no one got to game after a 4 card limit raise, WOW!
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Posted 2005-October-05, 11:25

pclayton, on Oct 5 2005, 12:08 PM, said:

I posted this hand because I stopped opening weak 2's on hands like this about 5 years ago. Yesterday, it just felt right and tried it for 'old times sake'  :P .

Pard had: Kxxx, xx, Txxx, AQx and we defended 4♥, barely beating it a trick when declarer misguessed trump (dummy had ATxx, she had Qxxx) reasonably playing my pard for the K.

4♠ is on a heart guess only, which you will get right on the auction. No one got to game amazingly - the +170's were ties for top. +50 was a 3/12 for us  :) .


Come back from the dark side Phil, open your opening hands one of a suit. :-)

Dealer had a nice little middle level pass with fit, so the point counters see 11 opposite 9 and say stop. Experienced players see that 11 as a nice hand (I called it more than a minimum), and that supporting hand as nice too. Zar fans see this as 28 opposite 22, then with fit/super fit points added (Responder gets 2 pts), opener gets 2 more as well), have no trouble bidding the game (52 needed for game).
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Posted 2005-October-05, 11:50

2♠ for me, i always feel whoever has to make the last guess will be wrong alot of the times, i just hope this isnt the last bid in this auction
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Posted 2005-October-05, 12:56

pigpenz, on Oct 5 2005, 01:50 PM, said:

2♠ for me, i always feel whoever has to make the last guess will be wrong alot of the times, i just hope this isnt the last bid in this auction

Did you ever consider opening this hand 2♠ might be the last guess?
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Posted 2005-October-05, 17:11

Free, on Oct 5 2005, 08:26 AM, said:

3♠

excellent bid :)
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Posted 2005-October-05, 19:52

1S.
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Posted 2005-October-06, 02:36

I don't agree 3♠ is an excellent bid. These colours on the board, they mean something you know. Even if you won't get doubled everyone will be in 2♠ and you will be in 3♠. Great job!
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