[han]

Scoring: IMP

Partner deals and opens 1♦, RHO overcalls 1♠.

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[mike777]

2D if playing NFB
3D if playing Mike lawrence style.(standard)(NV)

I assume p opened 1club not 1D.

4D if partner opened 1D.

[han]

Jlall, on Sep 28 2005, 11:03 AM, said:

Did partner really open 1C? from your poll options it looks like he opened 1D.

I corrected it Justin, thanks.

[Chamaco]

5 diamonds.

[tysen2k]

5♦. Opps probably have fits in both majors.

Tysen

[hrothgar]

Hannie, on Sep 28 2005, 07:00 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

Partner deals and opens 1♦, RHO overcalls 1♠.

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It would be interesting to see a simulation showing partners expected Diamond length.
In particular, what percentage of the time will partner have 3 Diamonds, which strongly suggests that partner is sitting on a 4432 13 count or some such.

♠ KT63
♥ KQ93
♦ KJ4
♣ 87

In this case:

1. The opponents best fit is in Hearts not Spades
2. Partner has a defensively oriented hand (his points more likely to be in the majors that in the minors)

An immediate 5♦ bid puts the opps under a lot of presssure, however, the bid could easy result in a phantom sac. It also bypasses 3N.

I'm bidding a tame 2♠, showing a game invitational hand with Diamond support.
Please note: If I wanted to throw a monkey wrench into the opponents auction, I'd bid 3♥ as a fit showing jump.

[mikestar]

I'm bidding 4♦--right on hand type and LOTT. I don't like trying for game. Too often partner will bid 3NT with a spades well stopped and they find a heart lead, leaving partner looking for six tricks from ♦ and the other three from heaven.

Playing a weak NT so that partner has 4+ diamond (usually 5+) or extra values, I'd bid 5♦ with confidence.

Like KS said, the biggest benefits of the weak NT come when you don't open it.

[pclayton]

Just 5♦ and live with the result.

I could drive myself silly with what pard might or might not have - oops sorry looks like Justin already did

[pbleighton]

5D, though 4D has its merits.

Peter

[Al_U_Card]

I want to cater to all of pard's options (including that nasty 18-19 hcp hand) and if we only have 20 hcp then 3D is a nice sensible, descriptive bid (by me? unpossible!) btw, how much pressure you apply to pard has to be considered too. )

[mr1303]

Any number of diamonds could be right here. Depends on what partner's hand is.

Incidently, I presume 1D is SAYC style, theoretically 3+ but only 3 if exactly 4432 shape. I vote for 3D, since I'm concerned he may have a good hand, but without much conviction.

[Al_U_Card]

Houston, we have lift-off! 2 and 1/6 votes for 3D......(3D was one of Justin's 6 thoughts ) Sorry Mike, I didn't include 1/2 for yours as it was under the assumption of a 1C opener

[whereagles]

Hum.. a psychic 3NT?

[P_Marlowe]

4D.

Feels about right.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jdeegan]

Hurrah! I can use LOTT, FTL, and the principle of the last guess on the same hand.

FTL = 13-3-1 = 9 (-3 for the short suits and -1 [maybe -2] for our working HCP's)
LOTT = 10 + 9 [or 10 + 8 +1] = 19 (or maybe 18 on a very bad day)

5♦ looks to be a standout based on the most probable situation which is 10 or 11 tricks for them and 8 or 9 for us. There is no guarantee it will be so, but bid'em up and let them guess. I plan to pass their five of a major, but pard may have the right hand to take the rare six diamond save.

Curiously, I am more worried that partner may have a goodish hand than anything else. If there are 19 tricks split 10 for us and nine for them, then 5♦ falls between the cracks. However, I am only going to get one chance to bid in this auction, so I intend to make the best of it.

P.S. If partner has the dreaded (but thankfully rather rare) 4-4-3-2 distribution, then we may not escape unscathed in 5♦, but I refuse to play scared bridge EVER.

[inquiry]

Say hello equality.... in which one option is "other" {2NT} showing despirately weak preempt to 3♦. This hand is actually too good fo equality 2NT. That leaves 3♦.. showing long diamonds and smattering of good stuff. This way if the hand belongs to us, we haven't gone rocketmaning to 5♦ when 3NT is right. And if it is their hand, we have time to big again should we feel the need. Yes, to bid 3♦ then 5♦ is bad bridge, but to bid 5♦ when you have 9 tricks in NT, 5 tricks in either major, and 10 tricks in ♦ is bad too.

[000002]

4NT
In this case,4♠ is rkc

[han]

Scoring: IMP

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I bid 5D and the hand turned out to be echo-proof: partner made 11 tricks.

At the other table the bid was only 3D, and the opponents were able to compete. The final contract was 6H doubled by east-west, which rolled home after a diamond lead.

One hand proves nothing, but in my opinion the 3D bidder got exactly what he deserved: -19 IMPs.