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When fits give you fits Q-bidding

#21 User is offline   bridge2k 

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Posted 2005-September-16, 12:14

Al_U_Card, on Sep 16 2005, 09:09 AM, said:

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1♠ p 2♥ p
3♥ p 3♠ p
4♣ p 4♥ p
4♠ p ???


Would you believe, missed it by THAT much! :D

Pard passed, asking when he saw my hand. "Why did you sign off?" :D

Did I? :o Your usual incisive comments and suggestions, if you please. :D

For me, 4S is forcing Q. I don't see any reason why I need to signoff ar 4S in such a bidding sequence.

I expect more on 4S Q, at least KJT, usually 2 of 3 tops.

Looks no grand here. So I will go RKC instead of 4S. If everything is in hand, you may still probe grand.
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Posted 2005-September-16, 13:10

Jlall, on Sep 16 2005, 11:43 AM, said:

If I had QJxxxx KQx xx AK I would bid this hand exactly as the auction had gone. How would your auction have differed?

Well, for one thing, I would likely have rebid 2♠, rather than jam the auction with 3♥ :)

Yes, 2♥ promises 5 cards (in all rational methods I have seen), so we have a fit. But we are never losing the ♥ fit by rebidding 2♠, unless we have a double fit, and then we probably do not care which suit is trump.

In the meantime, my 2♠ bid allows partner to make a lower descriptive bid, which cannot be bad news for me, with my complicated hand.

Is 2♠ perfect? No: it is easy to construct hands on which announcing the ♥ support may be more effective. But my view is that such hands will be relatively infrequent. So for me 2♠ is a more effective rebid than is 3♥.
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Posted 2005-September-16, 13:13

Well I guess that is where we differ. Your point is well taken, but it may be difficult for partner to know you dont have Hx of hearts when you preference later. Things can get murky. I guess for you spades can never be better than hearts, so your view makes a lot of sense. I guess that the real crux of this matter is about the 3H and 3S bids, and what hand types are and are not acceptable, and then what 4S means in that context.
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Posted 2005-September-16, 13:18

Wow, i wouldn't have thot of that one. Wouldn't the eventual choice of 6H after a sort of indirect preference get you over to 6NT when P has only 5 H?
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