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One for fun A freak at kitchen bridge

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Posted 2005-September-12, 10:41

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(2♥)* - X - (4♥) - P
(P) - ?

* 8-12 hcp, 5+ hearts

We were playing for fun after a recent bridge match at a friend of mine's. One of the guys picked up this beast with hand shuffled cards. (Although we properly shuffle 7 or 8 times.) He had this interesting problem to deal with.

1) Would you have doubled the first round?
2) What would you bid now?
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Posted 2005-September-12, 10:46

1) Yes or no, depending. If 3H immediately is a stopper ask, that's what I would bid. I know this is a minority view even playing this method, but it's a better way to start with this hand type i think (obviously with the intention of bidding again). If it isn't, X is my only reasonable start.

2)Now I would just bid 5C. Wimpy I know, but theres no way to find out what you need to know (4N would not be blackwood).

Interestingly, when I played with Bart Bramley for the first timehe informed me that all 4N bids that were jumps were blackwood. He included 2H-4N in that. What a perfect hand for that convention this is, and I don't know anyone else who plays that.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 10:47

over 2H, I bid 4N, straight blackwood.
I pass 5C, bid 6C over 5D and 7N over 5H.... wtp?
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Posted 2005-September-12, 10:48

Double then 5♣ seems normal unless you expect 4NT to be Blackwood.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 11:54

Another of those "Do you feel lucky, punk?". If yes, 6C. If no, 5C.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:05

I think I'd just try a direct 6♣ at this vulnerability on the 'one useful card' approach. Even then, won't they usually sac over 6♣ at these colors? No guarantee they can figure out the suits to cash in 6♣ anyway.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 13:22

Jlall, on Sep 12 2005, 11:46 AM, said:

Interestingly, when I played with Bart Bramley for the first timehe informed me that all 4N bids that were jumps were blackwood. He included 2H-4N in that. What a perfect hand for that convention this is, and I don't know anyone else who plays that.

In the expert community, over a weak 2 H/S, are 4C, 4D leaping michaels or something else? tnx
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Posted 2005-September-12, 13:27

with Bart we played:

2H-3H=stopper ask
2H-4m=leaping michaels
2H-4H=minors
2H-4N=straight blackwood (!!)
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Posted 2005-September-12, 13:50

I kinda like that 4H bid for the minors......especially the reward of freeing up 4NT which i expect is used by some(most) to show the minors and 4H is some kind of uber-hand that would have opened 2C or is that hand shown by dbl then (3)H....?
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